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TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
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ACC and Big12 seem to have gone along with this rape without even a whimper of protest.
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
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Mar 15, 2024, 12:54 PM
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Because they are still more than doubling what they are currently getting (6 million) and it’s a better option than being left behind if the SEC/BIG leave or if they were to break away themselves and do their own thing. They know this is their best option.
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:02 PM
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Sometimes in negotiations you have to call a bluf. No balls from the ACC and B12. The leadership saying “we have no choice” and “it’s better than what we have today” is total ########. Stick together and say no. 25-30 major schools saying no carries weight. And when/if they move along without you, sue the #### out of them and drag it out in the courts. Seems to work in Washington.
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Amen.***
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:39 PM
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Definitely no bluffing from Clemson. Playing our cards very close to the vest.
Mar 16, 2024, 9:53 AM
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But we are actively working to get out of this fubared conference.
If anyone wants to know what fubared means, let me know.
Bye ACC. Bye Tobacco Road clowns. It didn’t have to be this way, but you’re not going to screw up our livelihood.
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
Mar 16, 2024, 9:37 AM
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It looks to me like they would have a pretty strong anti trust case. The ACC has as many CFP titles and final appearances as the B1G. There is no real reason to justify the B1G receiving much more money and certainly not more automatic bids than the ACC.
The only upside is the ineptitude of ACC leadership in these negotiations could be the key to unlocking the Grant of Rights clause with the ACC.
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
Mar 16, 2024, 9:42 AM
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They would not have a strong anti trust case.
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Where are you getting that from?
Mar 16, 2024, 9:54 AM
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Watch and see what happens.
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Re: Where are you getting that from?
Mar 16, 2024, 10:21 AM
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Because you aren't going to be able to make an anti trust case simply because you aren't getting as much money as somebody else. It's a foolish premise.
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:10 PM
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It's because for all but two of the teams in the conference they will be making far more than their viewership numbers, results on the field, etc are worth. You really think WF or some of the other dregs aren't thrilled to be getting 17 million to be totally irrelevant? Now for the other two its a screw job for sure which is why they want out.
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
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Mar 15, 2024, 2:50 PM
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But I guess you are ok with Rutgers, Vanderbilt, SoCar, Maryland, etc all making more than Clemson and FSU? Yea ok.
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
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Mar 15, 2024, 5:58 PM
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Speak truth.
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
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Mar 15, 2024, 7:20 PM
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Plus that deal does more to force them out bc they are left with no other choice bc they have to spend just as much as the SEC and Big teams to be able to compete with them. This should be something that would help Clemson and FSU to leave in the eyes of the courts without them paying a dime, especially with them giving non conference ND a share...
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
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Mar 15, 2024, 7:13 PM
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Plus giving ND a way out from having to join a conference to play for the same National championship that all other members of a conference play for. Something about that just doesn't right, they get to share in the same money that was meant for conference members, but the conference don't get a dime of what ND makes by selling their own TV rights that conference members are not allowed to do!!!
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Adding ND was really the only way to salvage the league and a TV deal.
Mar 16, 2024, 10:00 AM
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But no, let’s get meaningless programs like Cal, Stanford, and SMU.
LOL. Does absolutely nothing for the cash cow and bargaining for new TV money. Great academics, but barely a blip on the radar as far as whats driving realignment. Purely a desperation move.
The ACC has really made fools of themselves. Trying to strong arm schools to stay in a dying conference is not going to work. There will ultimately be a settled payout, and schools like Clemson and FSU, with a TON of leverage, will land in a better spot as college football radically changes.
Trust the admin on this. Just because we’re not making a bunch of noise like FSU doesn’t mean we’re not actively working to get out.
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Re: The greed of the SEC and BIG is not surprising. What IS surprising is that the
Mar 15, 2024, 9:02 PM
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I think the other conferences should come together and start their own playoff system. Let the SEC and BIG-10 have their fling and the illegitimate offspring that comes from it. The rest of the conferences can do it the right way and spread the dollar$ around the right way. It could be like a Power 5 Division I and Power 5 Division II, where Clemson competes in the Division II with the rest. No one should be surprised at this nonsense. This SEC and BIG-10 love affair has been coming together for a while. They can have their glory and the rest can have their glory. When the SEC and BIG-10 start having issues and bickering let them sleep in the bed they made. This arrangement will also almost certainly leave USuC (UofSC) with absolutely no chance of ever making a playoff!!!
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Waving the white flag.
Mar 16, 2024, 9:48 AM
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The ACC has added virtually nil in bargaining power by adding 3 academic schools. It’s kind of a joke really. Why realign when the teams you’re bringing in do nothing to add negotiating power? Just desperate nonsense really.
We’re out of here. Bank it.
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:04 PM
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Someone please explain to me why Notre Dame is still relevant without conference affiliation. Ohio State used to be the most arrogant fanbase to me (because I live in SC where they all move down to), but the domers are getting close to taking the top spot.
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:06 PM
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Stop asking the ND question. It’s been that way and not going to change. Everyone seems to care more about ND and not the inequality of revenue. And the other clause that’s coming - more auto qualifiers for the SEc and B10.
Folks- we have no chance to compete in the future with this nonsense. No chance
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:07 PM
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That is just stupid for the ACC or any of the others to agree to! Idiots in charge!
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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ESPN is Rat poison to college football I would go back to listening to it on the radio and a game here or there on Jefferson Pilot or in person when I could if it meant ESPN was gone I really do despise them and what they have done to college football
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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This is the post of the day. What you say is so true, and I don't know if many people realize it!
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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Mar 16, 2024, 9:38 AM
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Disney (ESPN) stock is at $112, off its high of $176 three years ago. Despite consistantly pumping out social bilge they are allowed to call the shots now and into the future.
For the ACC and Big12 to agree to approximately 50% less to participate in a made for TV sham is absurd.
Depending on ESPN money in the out years is silly. They might not even exist in the new world of media.
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:29 PM
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Just make it the NFC and AFC type format from the NFL and get it over with. We all know thats where its headed. 2 major conferences with several divisions within, playoff on each side, winners play for the Natty. And get rid of all those other worthless bowls.
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Did All ACC School Agree to this or was it a majority vote?
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:32 PM
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I can't imagine FSU agreeing to anything from the ACC with their lawsuit going on
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This is despicable. Who the he-- from the ACC and Big 12 signed this?
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:38 PM
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You don't let ESPN(SEC) and the Big Ten(FOX) bully and dictate to you this way!
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:45 PM
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Goodbye ACC.
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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Hopefully this will provide a legal opportunity for Clemson to escape its ACC shackles. The ACC has entered into an agreement that puts its members at a competitive disadvantage monetarily. Clemson should be able to seek greener pastures should such an invitation exist. The ACC will need to adopt a performance based distribution of revenues if it wants to retain its dominant teams. That's the only way I can see Clemson remaining on that sinking ship.
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
Mar 15, 2024, 7:40 PM
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Hopefully this will be the straw that broke the ACC's back as far as holding a member school from leaving without paying them huge exit fees. I don't think they would win in court if FSU and Clemson left refusing to pay that exit fee bc they already crippled them with this deal they made...
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
Mar 16, 2024, 9:45 AM
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That argument would not hold up in court.
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I'm not familiar with anti-trust laws but would seem to be in close....
Mar 15, 2024, 2:22 PM
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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If everyone would quit whining, use their power by not watching or giving money to it they would stop ruining the sport. But just like society everyone’s to cowardly or just to stupid to understand the power they hold.
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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Mar 15, 2024, 3:02 PM
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What happens if the SEC and Big10 neither or only one of them have a team in the playoffs?
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
Mar 15, 2024, 3:43 PM
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That won’t happen as both conferences are pushing to get 3 automatic bids each
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
Mar 15, 2024, 7:44 PM
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You really don't believe that something like that would happen do you... ESECPN would never allow it to happen, they have way to much money invested in the SEC to allow that to happen!!!
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Please pass the KY jelly
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“But others will be protected by parameters that have been put in place that can’t be altered.”
“Look in clause” (more like “look out”)
Someone please tell me again, why I would like to watch college football again!
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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It's too bad this is happening. I wish the B1G and SEC could be kicked out of the NCAA and let them do their thing until they eat each other.
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
Mar 15, 2024, 3:54 PM
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So Vandy, USuC, Purdue, Rutgers and Northwestern will reap $21M a year while a viable playoff contender in Clemson will get $13M a year??? From a football playoff?????
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
Mar 15, 2024, 4:07 PM
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This has gotten to be ridiculously stupid and unfair
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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Kick South Carolina out of the SEC. Replace them with Clemson. Enough said Go Tigers!!!
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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What a bunch of crap! There needs to be a lot of pushback from the ACC and Big 12. They shouldn’t take this. Clemson needs to working extremely hard to get out of the ACC because now it is not advantageous nor profitable to remain in this crappy conference.
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All the ignorant on Tnet who want to continue to support
Mar 15, 2024, 4:54 PM
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Wake, Duke, Syracuse and others and to languish in the ACC will realize soon enough that Clemson will be doing so with 1/2 the TV and conference revenue of SCU, Vandy and Rutgers.
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Does this "look-in" clause allow the ACC and Big 12 members to watch an almost
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entire CFP comprised of SC/Big 10 teams?
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Well there will be no more realignment from
Mar 15, 2024, 5:54 PM
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The vig two. They will not want to create a quicker look in, even to get more of a share
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on***
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
Mar 15, 2024, 6:02 PM
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Clemson will leave the ACC soon and the league will be in the trash heap of history.
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
Mar 15, 2024, 7:17 PM
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Definition of being a “cuck”
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Re: TNET: Reports: New College Football Playoff deal agreed on
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#### Notre dame. Join a conference or sit your ### home. Not like you are going to be there anyway.
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to get the record straight, this is for the well being of student
Mar 15, 2024, 8:08 PM
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athletes. hahahahahaha...... college football is done. how can you compete? when you are behind revenue year after year after year.....
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This deal shows that their goal for the College Football Playoff
Mar 16, 2024, 7:34 AM
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… Is all about money and not about what is right and fair in the field.
Fourteen teams? Why not 16? Why should any teams get a bye? Who determines who those teams are? Why should any team have an advantage of having rested an extra game over their opponent?
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Re: This deal shows that their goal for the College Football Playoff
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The SEC and B1G Everhowmany Champions get the byes.
Serious question, does this raise Clemson's GOR Buyout by $7m per year for 2026 through 2032? Is this another ACC gotcha?
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Re: This deal shows that their goal for the College Football Playoff
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There will be 29 teams from the SEC and B1G that rank below Clemson in one of these lists that earn 2X as much from this deal
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Brand Value
1 Alabama
2 Ohio St
3 UGa
4 Oklahoma
5 Clemson
6 LSU
7 Texas A&M
8 Texas
9 Oregon
10 Miami
11 Florida
12 Notre Dame
13 Penn St
14 UNC
15 Ole Miss
16 Michigan
17 Florida St
18 Tennessee
19 Southern Cal
20 UCLA
21 Auburn
22 Michigan
23 Miss St
24 Maryland
25 UofSC
Viewers 2016-23 These schools equal 50% of views
1 Alabama
2 Ohio St
3 UGa
4 Michigan
5 Clemson
6 Notre Dame
7 Oklahoma
8 LSU
9 Penn St
10 Texas
11 Auburn
12 Florida
13 Wisconsin
14 Washington
15 Florida St
16 Tennessee
17 So Cal
18 Oregon
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Its just a matter of time. Clemson deserves more than part of 17%.
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The ACC did NOTHING by adding Cal, Stanford, and SMU. Didn’t even move the needle in the national football scene. The move was a desperate one by the clowns running this league. It will be broken up by 2026, and Clemson will be in a new spot or soon destined for one.
Clemson is active behind the scenes. Believe that. We’ve been eerily quiet in public forums, but this is the Clemson way. We are working to get out of here.
Along with that, realignment is far from over. There will be two or four big conferences that will pull away from the NCAA. The ACC has sealed its fate by doing virtually nothing on the football (king) front. We will be moving as realignment to the new world of college football settles in.
Just a matter of time.
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