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Rock Defender [54]
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Seems like the conf championships are only a liability
Nov 30, 2016, 11:45 AM
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True they are more likely to be play "out" games vs "off" or
Nov 30, 2016, 11:50 AM
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"in." I'd be happy to see these replaced by a quarterfinal round of a CFP, where the losers are cast into the rest of the bowl selection process following.
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Legend [19202]
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The season should mean more. If you lose then so be it. You
Nov 30, 2016, 11:51 AM
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might have a chance with undefeated teams. If you lose 2 then you should not even think you can win a NC.
Expanding to 8 waters the product down IMO.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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seems like we want it both ways...
Nov 30, 2016, 11:56 AM
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if we were in Penn State's or Wisconsin's shoes, Conference Championship should mean more. If we are in our position, regular season should mean more.
I believe Conference Championships should mean more because they are a refelection of the regular season. They are in essence playoff games. I firmly believe if a team like Ohio State cannot win their conference, they do not belong, regardless of a mythological "eye test."
Here is the deal with us...if we can't beat VT, we do not belong in the final four...period. Both teams know what's at stake. Nobody sneaking up on nobody and squeaking out a win. Best team will win.
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I tend to agree
Nov 30, 2016, 11:58 AM
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I didn't like it when they rematched LSU/BAMA a few years ago because Bama didn't win their conference.
If the regular season matters as much as they say it does, then how can a team which isn't the champion (ie best as it was played on the field) of thir conference be best in the country?
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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But Ohio State really took it to another ESPN/Sportswriter
Nov 30, 2016, 11:51 AM
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darling, Oklahoma.
And they are really good because the Big 10 is really good measured against itself.
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Re: Seems like the conf championships are only a liability
Nov 30, 2016, 11:54 AM
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The solution is for 12 people to come up with the 4 best teams and not have everybody b*tch about it. If they think Michigan and Ohio St are better than Penn St and Wisconsin that is all that matters. I agree with them.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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that is no better than the BCS then, except we have 4 teams
Nov 30, 2016, 12:00 PM
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in the mix...
'Tis what happened a few years ago when LSU and Alabama played for the title. LSU won the SEC, but they still put Bama in. They may have been the two best teams, but let's do this thing on the field and not use the same old "eye test" that the BCS used.
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It's all fodder for discussion
Nov 30, 2016, 12:00 PM
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The one thing I can agree on here, is that I'm fine with teams with ANY loss getting left out under some circumstance. If you lose then your situation becomes tenuous.
With that said, an 8 team playoff including all power 5 conf champs makes too much #### sense.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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yep....
Nov 30, 2016, 12:03 PM
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someone will always feel "left out," but take the power 5 and three at large and there can be little complaint.
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Re: Seems like the conf championships are only a liability
Nov 30, 2016, 12:59 PM
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The playoffs should be comprised of conference champions, simple as that. No media, no polls, no "eye test", no "quality losses", no score to impress at the cost of sportsmanship... just win and you're in. Lose and you're out. If you ain't the best in your conference, you ain't the best in the nation. If you want to go to an 8 team playoff, then sure, fill the at-large spots based on any ratings-grabbing scheme you want, but conference champions automatically qualify.
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Re: Seems like the conf championships are only a liability
Nov 30, 2016, 12:12 PM
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I agree, if we don't win this weekend, we shouldn't be in. As far as the others go, it wont matter because it will be us and Bama in the finals, unless they put us in the semis against them. heck, it might be us and Washington in the finals.
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Re: Seems like the conf championships are only a liability
Nov 30, 2016, 12:36 PM
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Here is your best case anwser. That best four conference winners, no matter what your record of win / loss's. it works for the Pro's. that means if you want to win a NCAA championship you must belong to a conference
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Re: Seems like the conf championships are only a liability
Nov 30, 2016, 1:16 PM
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Consider out of conference matchups... no more worry about the delicate balance of strength of schedule getting you into the playoffs and a loss keeping you out. Forget all that. Just schedule Georgia they are a rival and that's who we want to play. Schedule Alabama. Make out of conference games bowl quality. Forget Georgia Southern. Give me Penn State. All I have to do to make the playoffs is win my conference, so why not make out of conference games exciting?
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You're right...
Nov 30, 2016, 12:02 PM
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I think conferences will eventually back away from the conference championship games especially if the number of playoff teams is expanded.
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All-In [26514]
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Losing multiple games also seems to be a liability ...
Nov 30, 2016, 12:16 PM
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rightfully so.
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Re: Losing multiple games also seems to be a liability ...
Nov 30, 2016, 1:03 PM
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We don't want no 8 team playoff that would put you playing extra games against 2 - 3 loss teams .
They will change the rules / agenda to get the matchups they want .
Watch Nick Saban avoid playing Clemson and tOSU in the first round , if we get in .
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Re: Seems like the conf championships are only a liability
Nov 30, 2016, 1:51 PM
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8 team playoff is too many games for student only getting paid a scolarship.
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