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Orange Blooded [4896]
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Ron Morris was not off-base on his Penn State analogy. The NCAA
Oct 1, 2012, 9:19 PM
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Should investigate to see if Tanner (by the way I used to like the guy but he has proven himself to be gutless) Pastides or any other USuC official contacted the Drate or the TV station that fired Morris. This is lack of institutional control and exactly what led to the fact that Penn State was willing to sweep anything under the rug for their coach.
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Re: Ron Morris was not off-base on his Penn State analogy. The NCAA
Oct 1, 2012, 9:33 PM
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Stevie's reaction shows there is a little to much truth to the "too much power" argument
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Orange Blooded [4988]
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If you were to look back at all my previous posts
Oct 1, 2012, 9:41 PM
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explaining why Penn St should be held accountable for what happened, you'll see I basically stated what Morris was talking about. Penn St had created an environment where JoePa and the football program had absolute authority over the university and no one could question it. Now I can totally understand that nobody saw the Sandusky thing coming, but the fact is anyone with common sense knew nothing like that could end good.
Now some of the stuff people around here may have heard of but most of what went on under JoePa's watch was kept under wraps nationally and the only people really privy to things were people around Happy Valley. Much like a lot of the stuff Spurrier has been doing is only known about around these parts. If So Car continues to allow Spurrier to do what he pleases and doesn't question him, they'll be the ones taken advantage of and their relationship with Spurrier won't end well.
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Re: I read the Paterno bio recently
Oct 1, 2012, 9:47 PM
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it never really touches that Joe knew stuff about Sandusky but it is very clear what a do your best guy he was. go above and beyond is what he taught. so why did he dump it on the AD and never follow up? The book also says Joe and Jerry did not like each other or get along at all which was a bit of a surprise.
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CU Guru [1243]
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That's pathetic
Oct 1, 2012, 10:14 PM
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Penn State involved child rape and molestation over many years- with possible coaches- and various athletic officials knowing about it - and ignoring it.
You may hate Steve Spurrier's guts - but comparing that situation to anyhting at South Carolina is classless and stupid.
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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Re: That's pathetic
Oct 1, 2012, 11:48 PM
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not really. noone accused usuc of molestation. just lack of guts and institutional control that will come back to bite them...youll see
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Orange Blooded [4988]
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It's none of what you said
Oct 2, 2012, 12:16 AM
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Like I said, what happened with Sandusky was the extreme that nobody saw coming and even in a culture like that would most likely never happen again. The point of the comparison is that when you start giving too much power to the football coach and program over the university it creates a poor culture for the school and bad things can happen from it. Let your football coach do what he wants and you'll suffer the consequences.
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Orange Blooded [2213]
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Basicically "absolute power corrupts absolutely:....
Oct 2, 2012, 6:15 AM
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...or something similar to that. The USC admin and all their fans feel they're on the verge of great things in the FB football program and nothing is going to get in the way of that. Especially not a two-bit (in their eyes) reporter who won't kiss Spurrier's red behind.
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classless, the definition of the coot fan base***
Oct 2, 2012, 12:50 AM
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The emperor has no clothes...
Oct 1, 2012, 10:06 PM
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Very unfortunate for all of us. Coots won't know how bad they got it until it's too late, which is fitting.
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nice
Oct 2, 2012, 12:03 AM
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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Re: nice
Oct 3, 2012, 1:28 PM
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Now thats the funniest comment I have read on here orabgetiger77. I'm still laughing. thumbs up!!
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CU Guru [1243]
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He was way off base - even Greg Doyle admitted that much
Oct 1, 2012, 10:16 PM
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All Tanner did was stand up for his football coach- which he felt was deserved.
What are you talking about "that fired Morris?"
What "lack of institutional control" are you referring to in this matter?
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uh, the whitney hotel free rooms***
Oct 2, 2012, 12:27 AM
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coupled with the fact the usuck "compliance dept"
Oct 2, 2012, 12:55 AM
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immediately signed off on those NCAA violations rather than first checking with the NCAA to make sure everything was above board. If thats not classic "lack of institutional control", I'm not sure what is.
Of course, we wouldn't want to infer that the football program has exerted enough pressure on the usuck ath dept to give Spurrier's thugs "carte blanche" or anything like that
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It wasn't a "lack" of institutional control that doomed PSU,
Oct 1, 2012, 10:31 PM
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it was the abuse of institutional control that brought them down. That was the comparison that Morris was making, where institutions, its caretakers, and its supporters lose sight of right and wrong due to the euphoria of on field success and the fact that Dame Stardom is escorting little Johnny to the prom.
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CU Guru [1243]
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What Ron was saying was - and he's full of bull btw
Oct 1, 2012, 10:39 PM
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that people like him are all that's standing in the way of something like Penn State happening.
Well I have news for Ron - this happened at Penn State for a long, long time and no media member wrote about it until it blew open.
They didn't write about it because they were covering it up. They didn't know about it.
Ron is under the impression that people like him or the only ones that can bring light to such situations.
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Legend [16263]
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Ron Morris is a hack sell-out looking to stir up either
Oct 1, 2012, 10:58 PM
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praise or hate to help produce more eyeballs and sell the sorry rag he writes for.
BTAIM, Spurrier is an embarrassment and represents so much that is wrong with college athletics. Before he came here to rescue the program from its prior coaching legend's failure and help the dirtpeckers secure 5th place conference rings for a miracle 11-win season, you and every other [Go]####-loving chump despised him for the dirtbag he was at Florida. Now that he's yours, coots are so far up his ### by now that the smell has manifested into sweet perfume.
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CU Guru [1243]
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Disagree on both accounts
Oct 1, 2012, 11:01 PM
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I like Ron Morris. I've told him that many times. I happen to believe his comment regarding Penn State was classless though- and I've told him that. He knows he screwed up.
I actually liked Spurrier a ton when he was at Florida. His last team at Florida was the best college team I ever saw in person. Yes, most Gamecock fans didn't like him- just like most Clemson fans hated Brad Scott's guts when he was at USC- and loved in a week later when he was hired at Clemson.
That's not particularly unusual.
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A shocking development.***
Oct 1, 2012, 11:04 PM
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CU Guru [1243]
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Why? You expected me to defend Ron?***
Oct 1, 2012, 11:06 PM
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Orange Blooded [4988]
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That's not what Ron was trying to say
Oct 2, 2012, 12:26 AM
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He was talking about the way the Penn St created a culture to where JoePa and the football program where given preferential treatment from the university and could do what they pleased and were never questioned about it. Criticism and things JoePa did and got away with were reported all the time up there. Like I said, up in those parts local residents of the area knew exactly what went on there. Growing up with a family of Pitt and Penn St alums I was told all the time over the years how dirty JoePa was. The school would just protect JoePa, deny it, and sweep it under the rug. That's what Spurrier's trying to create here and what Morris was comparing it to.
The only reason why Morris felt it was a bad comparison and what Doyle touched on was the fact that it was too soon after this whole molestation scandal happened and a lot of people, like you, would look more at a comparison to that instead of what he was trying to get at.
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Also little things here and there about JoePa
Oct 2, 2012, 12:45 AM
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being reported are as old a JoePa was. My example was just 1 of many.
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Orange Blooded [4896]
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It is pathetic that you and other USC fans don't get it
Oct 1, 2012, 10:37 PM
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Steve Spurrier believes he is more important than your school. Tanner's reaction and that of WOLO and your fans confirms he is right. No good will come of this for your school. At best you will be lucky to win an SEC ease "title" and sell your soul in the process
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CU Guru [1243]
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Disagree
Oct 1, 2012, 10:41 PM
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Sorry- you are spinning.
WOLO made a business decision. That's their right.
I don't know why you are talking about wins or losses. That has nothing to do with the topic or issue. That's a personal deal with you.
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Re: It is pathetic that you and other USC fans don't get it
Oct 2, 2012, 12:21 AM
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I think it is hilarious that you taters are acting the way you do. How is Spurrier above the school? He has a writer that writes false information about him. He's done it before and continues to do it. He has had enough with MoRon's lies and has voiced his opinion on the issue. If WOLO wants to take off Monday with Morris its their decision, no one watched it anyways.
Spurrier has done so much for our program and is setting it up for current and FUTURE success. Everyone questions the leaders of the best programs in any given industry, football is no different but compairing the situation at PSU with USC shows how stupid you guys are.
I think this may be my first post on this site and I have to say, this message board is cute. I remember when I made my first forum in middle school.
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Re: It is pathetic that you and other USC fans don't get it
Oct 2, 2012, 12:32 AM
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this is the best board in all of college athletics
...trust me I have visited them all
most house coots would admit as much
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Re: It is pathetic that you and other USC fans don't get it
Oct 2, 2012, 1:27 AM
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you have got to be kidding?
You need to get out and troll more often. Like it says on here....
"As you may know, we have been running TigerNet since our Junior year at Clemson in 1995."
Its time to change the layout. 1995 was a long time ago.
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Orange Blooded [4896]
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Facts:
Oct 1, 2012, 10:47 PM
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Your coach intimated that Ron would lose - and he lost his pt job at WOLO
Your AD called The State to defend Spurrier
Your coach said he would leave for the beach and would have rather coached at the real Carolina
He just gave you and every USuC fan the finger. You really are a sad bunch. Remember this when he $crews you when it suits him.
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Let me correct your facts
Oct 1, 2012, 11:06 PM
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My coach said that changes were coming to the newspaper, not WOLO tv - the station with the lowest local news ratings in Columbia.
Spurrier didn't give a rip about Morris' lame WOLO gig. Heck, Ron rarely - if ever- talked about college stuff on the WOLO gig. He was usually complaining about minor league baseball, or jerseys in the NFL, or the Cubs continuing to lose.
Yes, our AD did defend his football coach- which is exactly what I expect my AD to do unless he's doing something ethically wrong. In fact, he better stand by him.
disgreee- he just said what every college fan wants to hear their coach say when they believe a local opinion writer is pushing the edge too much.
If Dabo stood up and fussed about Phil Kornblut, you'd pee in your pants you'd be so happy. you sure wouldn't be on here talking about how wrong it was- and how he "runs the university"
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Re: Let me correct your facts
Oct 1, 2012, 11:08 PM
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especially if Kornblut was telling outright lies about Dabo
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I'm still waiting on the Kornblut defenders on here
Oct 1, 2012, 11:10 PM
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how many times have we read "let's ban him" on this very board?
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That's completely different
Oct 1, 2012, 11:44 PM
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PK isn't a writer in Clemson. RM is a writer in Columbia and it is his job to follow and write about the dirt peckers.
PK actually tries to influence a recruit's decision to come to Clemson. How often does Ron Morris call USuCk recruits and try to talk them out of going to dirtpeckerU?
Spurrier is a doucheface on a power trip, and is trying to take away the livelihood of someone who wrote and spoke negatively of the ol ball sack.
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CRICKETS from the dirtpecker! I'm waiting....***
Oct 3, 2012, 1:49 PM
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Orange Blooded [4988]
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If Morris was reporting outright lies that'd be a whole lot
Oct 2, 2012, 12:31 AM
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different, but he wasn't. It was an opinion column where he criticized Spurrier and Spurrier couldn't take it. If anyone, including Kornblut, wanted to write a negative column about Dabo I probably wouldn't like it depending on the topic, but I wouldn't want him fired.
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Orange Blooded [4896]
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Kinda skipped over the Carolina and beach comments didn't you?
Oct 1, 2012, 11:16 PM
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Spurrier could care less about your school and you are all fools for defending a man who so clearly sees this as just another job
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CU Guru [1243]
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no- not at all
Oct 1, 2012, 11:18 PM
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I just disagree with your "doesn't care about your school" theory.
It's too silly to debate for me.
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you can't debate it, because the facts prove you wrong***
Oct 2, 2012, 1:22 AM
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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Re: no- not at all
Oct 3, 2012, 1:36 PM
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or too painful...need a kleenex you jackwagon.
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Re: Re: It is pathetic that you and other USC fans don't get it
Oct 2, 2012, 7:14 AM
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Yeah....I remember when my team was nationally relevant for the first time. That's cute too.
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Re: Re: It is pathetic that you and other USC fans don't get it
Oct 2, 2012, 7:18 AM
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Sorry. Incorrect reply placement. Was meant for the little boy 3pete in a previous post.
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