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Is the ACC as bad as the SEC?
Jul 21, 2012, 4:30 PM
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For many years, many on TigerNet have pointed out that the integrity of the ACC was so much higher than the SEC.
We of the ACC were the golden boys of college athletics and they, the SEC, were the unprincipled brutes.
But with the problems at UNC and Miami (again) is the ACC that much different than the SEC?
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Re: Miami has always been as "bad" as the SEC and I'm
Jul 21, 2012, 4:41 PM
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Thanks for posting that, it was most informative and interesting.
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Unfortunately for the rep of the ACC, one of the programs in
Jul 21, 2012, 4:40 PM
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trouble is UNC, so Mr. Swofford's hands are tied in terms of discipline.
I would say that the cheating in the SEC feels more like a general unspoken rule...more woven into their standard operating procedures. But no question that Miami and UNC's programs are way out of line right now. More so than any SEC program I can think of.
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Re: Unfortunately for the rep of the ACC, one of the programs in
Jul 21, 2012, 4:43 PM
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The "academic fraud" at UNC is very discouraging since that is what the ACC takes the most pride in.
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Yes, that is why, if it was any other ACC school going
Jul 21, 2012, 4:51 PM
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through what UNC is currently going through, I would guess that Swofford would be pushing the investigation. He takes great pride in the academic integrity of the ACC (as he should). But it's UNC...so...ya know...
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They're tied with his unwillingness to come down hard on
Jul 21, 2012, 4:48 PM
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the most blatant academic corruption that the ACC has ever seen because he is, ultimately, a Tar Heel himself. But because he won't do his job with respect to UNC, he can't come down hard on Miami...so both will skirt by from an ACC perspective.
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Re: Is the ACC as bad as the SEC?
Jul 21, 2012, 4:48 PM
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Hell, no. UNC is on probation for probably the first time since the fifties. South Carolina is on probation for the third time in ten years. Miami is in, well, Miami. Its a different kind of place down there. I think they will always have problems. Its the culture.
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Not as much difference as we'd like to think.***
Jul 21, 2012, 4:48 PM
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Re: Is the ACC as bad as the SEC?
Jul 21, 2012, 6:11 PM
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The SEC is really loyal when it comes to its conference,something stinks in the SEC time will eventually catch them.Plus Miami had these issues way before they entered the ACC.Also Butch Davis,did he ever coach at the U?
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The SEC knows how to cheat. The ACC is a bunch of...
Jul 21, 2012, 6:53 PM
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naive maroons who don't know the limits. Clemson squeaky clean without necessity and UNCheat two tokes over the line. UM seem to not know what the rules really are.
You can bet the SEC schools have statisticians working on the probability of getting caught.
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Re: Is the ACC as bad as the SEC?
Jul 21, 2012, 6:59 PM
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The SEC minus ALA has never had the history of violations the ACC has. Just look at Miami, NC, FSU and Clemson. SEC's violation has been peanuts considering what these ACC teams have committed. Miami should get the death penality and Free Shoe U should be right behind them. Clemson deserved it back in its only glory years.
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You must be kidding...
Jul 21, 2012, 7:29 PM
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Alabama is the reason for NCAA rules
Auburn is right there with them
Miss St cheated under King Jackie
SCar has had more probations than Clemson. They cheated under Lou Holtz and Spurrier.
Florida cheated under Pell who is the one that got Clemson in trouble. Spurrier walked into the team that Pell paid for.
If you don't think LSU and UT are cheating, I got some ocean front property in Moncks Corner I can sell ya.
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Re: You must be kidding...
Jul 21, 2012, 7:33 PM
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You convinced me. I believe you now.
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