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What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?
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What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 12:58 PM
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A player development problem? Are we too reliant on the portal because of an inability to identify, recruit and develop talent from the High School ranks?

Or is it simply an allocation of resources problem?

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:00 PM
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Coaching problem. Look at the late game decisions. Look at the motivation and fire. Or lack of. He’s not good at X’s and O’s or motivation. I’d hate to see our record in games decided by less than 5 pts under cbb. I bet we win less than 25% that come down to coaching.

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Definitely a coaching problem

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:11 PM
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CBB doesn’t seem to have any obvious coaching philosophy to offer his players. Freelance on O until they jack it up and then refuse to go after the rebound…. Just jog back on D and let the other team drive to the hoop or shoot an uncontested shot in the face. Lazy passes, no screens, no posting up, no cuts to the hoop, no rebounds or 2nd shots. I suspect that there’s very little sweating going on at practice.

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Our teams seem to lack confidence when the game is on the line.

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:17 PM
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Where does that come from?

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Re: Our teams seem to lack confidence when the game is on the line.

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Jan 17, 2024, 8:18 PM
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Coaching!

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:37 PM [ in reply to Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem? ]
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I 100% agree that if that team depended on coaching to win, we would be in last place. Our BB team plays as well as a team with talent would play in a pickup game with most of the talent on one of the teams that hasn't been coached...

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A couple years ago, on the Packer & Durham show, Mark showed a list

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Jan 17, 2024, 8:16 PM [ in reply to Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem? ]
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of all the ACC team's record in 5-point games, over the previous 4 or 5 years. Clemson had by far the worst record in games decided by 5 points or less! Something like 7 and 28!

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Re: A couple years ago, on the Packer & Durham show, Mark showed a list

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Jan 17, 2024, 8:31 PM
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That is definitely a trend related directly to coaching

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what isn't the problem***

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:09 PM
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Neff is passionate about basketball and we're spending lots of money on the


Jan 17, 2024, 1:15 PM
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program. Facilities have been upgraded. Our coaches are well paid. Our fan base is eager for a winner.

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:12 PM
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Football school. There are basketball schools around the country where the best players go. Best players don't want to be second fiddle to another sport

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Defeatism. There is no reason to not believe we can be better.***

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:14 PM
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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:51 PM [ in reply to Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem? ]
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Alabama seems to have a good basketball program where guys don't care that football is also good.

Miami and Texas, two schools that sure would love to call themselves "football schools", made the Final Four last year.

This excuse is empty.

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:15 PM
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We got 99 problems and CBB is one.

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:42 PM
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But we have two huge problems, and Brad Brownell is one of them, the other I believe comes from crappy ball movement, or a me me me issue!!!

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Clemson is too rural and not much basketball talent in SC and .

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Jan 19, 2024, 1:25 PM
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Oooooops, was reading a post from like 2014 ….

Problem is Brownell coaches a midwestern Church League type style that is limited at this level. Notice how our players get worse as the season goes on ? They get frustrated and just kinda go through the motions

Need new coaching blood for sure. Someone like the Memphis Coach ad that GT coach is good ! Bet GT is a MAJOR force next year.

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Over the last 13+ seasons, there has been ONE common denominator.***

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:19 PM
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Is this really a question?

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:33 PM
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I believe that if you take a look at the talent on that team, I doubt you would think that it's the talent on that team that is creating their problems...

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:39 PM
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Making and defending the three point shot!!!!

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:45 PM
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You would think a competent coach could fix the defensive problem and adjust the offense if his players just can't shoot.

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:47 PM
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Brad has an average 35.75 recruiting class over these past four years.

We are roughly 40th in program budget in the nation, and Brad is roughly the 40th highest paid coach in the game over that span.

We average a 75th NET ranking at season's end.

Development and game coaching seem to be the difference between the resources and talent allocated and the results.

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Unfortunately, that 2020 class was his highest rated and we lost

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Jan 17, 2024, 2:53 PM
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two thirds of it, and two of his top recruits during that 4 year span, to the transfer portal.

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:53 PM
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I'd say every team setting a season high for 3pt FG% against us EVERY GAME is a tell.

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 1:56 PM
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Brownell is the problem and always has been

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 8:20 PM
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Absolutely. Plus he is a yeller. Lots of players don’t want to be yelled at!

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 3:17 PM
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Makes you wonder if the basketball program has some type of curse. Kinda like the chicken curse in Columbia.

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 8:21 PM
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It is the Brownell curse.

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Its because Clemson is too rural and there is not much Basketball talent in SC .

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Jan 17, 2024, 6:53 PM
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Ooooooops, that was from an infamous post I believe in like 2013 ? This is Deja Vu all over again. We've been talking like this for like a decade and it has really gotten old, its a joke.

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 8:03 PM
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A player development problem? Are we too reliant on the portal because of an inability to identify, recruit and develop talent from the High School ranks?

Or is it simply an allocation of resources problem?




Isn't the coach in charge of all of those ??

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 17, 2024, 9:21 PM
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It's a head coaching problem.

I remember Rick Barnes winning with worse players, less resources, and worse facilities.

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Re: What is the problem with Clemson Basketball? Is it a recruiting problem?

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Jan 19, 2024, 2:21 PM
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Great coaching makes average teams great. Poor coaching makes great teams average. That’s our problem

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