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TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 7:00 AM
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 7:21 AM
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Do any of these young men fit the Clemson culture?
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 8:41 AM
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I personally think they should go after Elijah Spence, kid is from dutchfork highschool same culture and program as will Taylor, Antonio Williams and Jarvis green…. Kid has had a stellar career at Charlotte I think Clemson should grab him and Dubose
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 12:40 PM
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I agree about DE experience and depth!
If the players we expect to depart leave; we will be lacking a lot of experience here. Greg Williams came in as an LB and converted to DE.
He and Swint(would have been in heavy rotation) in next year's DE rotation.
Some of these comments in this thread affirm me; some people only make judgments on "perception"!
The fact is Dabo/the staff did hit the portal actively last year looking for a couple of OL.
They just didn't choose Clemson.
I see the staff going after DE if players update the staff on their intentions to either leave for the draft or hit the portal or retire from football and not take the Covid-year!
I like the suggestion of the kid from Charlotte! If there is a kid who made plays who played at the FCS level even; be good to give them a shot. **clearly not my call for the literal out there. . . just typing/thinking out loud that it would be nice to get if we lose those players**!
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 12, 2022, 7:18 PM
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Charlotte is CUSA, not FCS
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 13, 2022, 4:59 AM
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A judgment he made only on perception, no doubt.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 1:47 PM
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We’re going to have to leave that up to the coaches, I agree it’s important. Kendrick comes to mind though…he stayed in and out of Dabo’s “love shack”…apparently GA was able to rehab his attitude….or live with it.?♂️
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 7:24 AM
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Are you dreaming like the rest of us,or do actually think Dabo will adapt to the current trends?
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Let me tell you something….we go
Dec 11, 2022, 8:04 AM
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go three years without a CFB playoff appearance and Dabo is catching some big time heat. We’re in the ACC with limited competition so the expectations are sky high. Hit the portal and add some talent Dabo !
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Re: Let me tell you something….we go
Dec 11, 2022, 8:07 AM
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That’s a silly take considering the 12-team playoff is right around the corner.
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We got lucky to win 10 games the past two years.
Dec 11, 2022, 9:29 AM
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We are struggling to win games even in the ACC. If we keep losing talent and giving other programs gross advantages because of our own stupidity, we won’t be making even a 12 team playoff.
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Re: We got lucky to win 10 games the past two years.
Dec 11, 2022, 2:16 PM
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What does it mean when stupid people speak of stupidity? There’s a reason why your Tiger pulse is so low, yet you call Dabo stupid. Wow, what a winner we have here.
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Re: Let me tell you something….we go
Dec 12, 2022, 7:18 PM
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Making the 12 team playoff won't mean that much if you lose in the first round before the top 4 even play a game.
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Re: Let me tell you something….we go
Dec 11, 2022, 9:59 AM
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that would be next years argument, since we have not played next year yet that is moot.
ACC self destructed down the stretch.. NC lost 3 in a row. NC State lost their starting QB. Wake finally ran out of magic about half way thru the season.
ACC is stuck in a media rights slump... the gift that will keep on giving.
It takes two... we need to want a kid and that kid needs to want to come to Clemson.
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Re: Let me tell you something….we go
Dec 11, 2022, 11:09 AM
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It’s not true that we’ve gone three years without making the playoff. My accounting skills indicate two years, 2021 and 2022.
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Re: Let me tell you something….we go
Dec 11, 2022, 11:45 AM
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I think he meant if go another year it will be 3...
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DE is absolutely a huge need for us
Dec 11, 2022, 7:35 AM
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I hope we at least look in the portal for DE, but we should have addressed this in recruiting before we got to this stage if we are hell-bent on not using the portal.
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Thanks, coach.***
Dec 11, 2022, 7:36 AM
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What's your obsession with my posts?
Dec 11, 2022, 7:40 AM
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Getting a bit creepy.
Also, the "you're not a coach" trope is getting kinda tired; I'd expect more creativity from the likes of you.
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Could you provide a history to support this "obsession"?
Dec 11, 2022, 7:42 AM
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Or are you thousand-year plastic sensitive?
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Legend [18792]
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Lately you can't help yourself.
Dec 11, 2022, 7:45 AM
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But by all means, pump away.
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Not surprised you've no answer, other than more pathos...
Dec 11, 2022, 7:49 AM
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Bring back the balloons!
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Not surprised you'd keep this going...
Dec 11, 2022, 7:57 AM
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like I said, you're obsessive but worse than that you really can't discount anything I actually said.
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That's precious, now maybe you can support your...
Dec 11, 2022, 8:07 AM
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accusations?
Where's this "obsession" you chatted up? Come on, "lately" should not be hard to find.
Sea turtles have an amazing sense of 'taste', not like their land based kin..., or are you just another knee-jerk with nothing to offer?
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I have been tangling with you lately for some reason
Dec 11, 2022, 8:11 AM
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and your smart-ass comments for stating the obvious.
Ironic that you ask me to prove it, but you refuse to comment on my posts' content. All you can do is reply with some snarky, unimaginative comment.
Obviously, you think we are fine at DE, coach.
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You've been tangling, then provide it? Or maybe...
Dec 11, 2022, 8:14 AM
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this is only contrived in your mind?
I commented on your post, very specific, not even remotely obscure.
It's the very reason you curled up in a corner and accused me of nothing of substance.
You've nothing else to offer, go Sea Turtles!
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Re: You've been tangling, then provide it? Or maybe...
Dec 11, 2022, 10:46 PM
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PBT, deadsol, you children quit squabbling. It's embarrassing.
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If we lose our seniors plus Murphy
Dec 11, 2022, 7:55 AM
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We will have no one with any gameday experience.
We will have Denhoff RS FR and Williams RS JR plus two four-star freshmen backing them up.
This mess started with Bates.
But it's not fine.
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Lemanski Hall has coached DEs since 2018, before that...
Dec 11, 2022, 8:01 AM
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it was Marion Hobby and Big Dan Brooks coached DTs.
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Re: Thanks, yeah Hall - he's the one writing poems to recruits?
Dec 11, 2022, 8:05 AM
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Hall was the recruiting coordinator, though, right?
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Re: If we lose our seniors plus Murphy
Dec 11, 2022, 8:10 AM
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Is Mascol returning? Is XT officially gone? Also, 5 star Wood can play DE obviously. I think we are fine. Then we have Denfoff, Patterson, and maybe even Lawson. I think we go with what we have. I don't think there will be some stud DE for us in the portal anyway. JMO
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I mean, don't we want Woods at DT?
Dec 11, 2022, 8:17 AM
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If Mascol and XT could come back, then I would say we are fine.
You usually want to redshirt that position imho and count on freshman to play significant snaps.
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Re: I mean, don't we want Woods at DT?
Dec 11, 2022, 8:19 AM
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Seems like Woods can play anywhere on the DL. It will be interesting to see.
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Re: If we lose our seniors plus Murphy
Dec 11, 2022, 10:50 PM
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As far as DE, I really think Patterson is going to show up when he gets a chance!! He's been in the program, knows the system, and sat behind NFL caliber players in Murphy, XT, & KJ
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Re: DE is absolutely a huge need for us
Dec 12, 2022, 7:20 PM
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90% of Clemson fans could not name a single DE that would be left on the roster without this article. We're in trouble
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Re: Really depends on what XT and Mascoll do
Dec 11, 2022, 11:49 AM
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I agree, they would be getting some really bad advice to go now and not come back and improve their stock for another year.
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Re: How much can we count on XT to stay healthy and actually see
Dec 11, 2022, 1:24 PM
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Fair question!
Wish I knew. He's been good when healthy, but staying healthy is the thing.
He and Ngata are the poster people for the "trainers table" hurting performance. Both, are really good players who can't stay healthy.
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Re: DE is absolutely a huge need for us
Dec 11, 2022, 8:42 AM
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There is plenty of talent there only issue is there is no experience cause the DE we had have been there for a while
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Re: DE is absolutely a huge need for us
Dec 11, 2022, 9:31 AM
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As many say and think, Dabo can no longer be hell-bent on not going to the portal, and if he does, look for more seasons like the last two we've had. Having a good QB without play making receivers is no different than having a QB that can't hit receivers!!!
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Re: DE is absolutely a huge need for us
Dec 11, 2022, 11:33 AM
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I disagree. Having a good QB with no playmakers is not as bad as having a terrible QB with playmakers. The reason being: QB is the only position other than Center that touches the ball on every single snap.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 7:52 AM
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The DB put of VA is a take imo, but it's hard for me to see it happening. As for the DE thing, not sure there are any we can get who will come here. Stud players who transfer are rarely coming to provide depth, so unless it's a slam dunk improvement (See OL) promises will have to be made and NIL used imo. Just my .02 cents however.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 8:01 AM
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Since we don't know what Williams and Denhoff can do, why could they not compete for a starting job?
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 8:01 AM
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These are not high school kids who wait on offers. In the Portal, you snooze, you lose.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 8:02 AM
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I seriously doubt we take many if any in the transfer portal. Dabo has yet to realize the portal is pumping progams up because it is providing other teams experienced players, whereas, Dabo feels recruiting only High School kids is the solution. Its the 2008 philosophy he stands by not the current changes. We shall see! I hope he does reach out to some of these kids and we get a few, especially at WR/DE.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 8:30 AM
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I like his philosophy. If you recruit well enough it works. Also, if you want to get players to believe in the process, you might not want to throw a transfer ahead of them.
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No. It does not work.
Dec 11, 2022, 9:46 AM
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You are clueless or oblivious, or brainwashed or all of the above. We are the only program not using the transfer portal. Programs that are better than us and that out recruit us are also using the portal!
You can’t keep losing as many players, as we lose every year and think the solution is bringing in high school kids and promoting walk-ons.
Experience matters. Being in a college weight room and on a better diet matters. You can’t replace guys that have already been in the program two and three and four years with kids out of high school.
You are also completely ignoring the fact that we no longer have a coaching staff with the ability to develop young players. Go read the article posted a few days ago. Almost no one on this coaching staff has coached anywhere outside of Clemson. This coaching staff is nothing but a bunch of Clemson players. Some of them had no coaching experience other than a few years in high school.
And the proof is on the field. We have not been seeing players improve and develop after their freshman year.
Dabo has completely surrounded himself with a bunch of yes men that are totally loyal and will not contradict him. Echo chambers and groupthink lead to failure! Look at biology. Science. This is inbreeding. That leads to epic failure! Bringing in people from the outside with fresh ideas, an objective viewpoint, as well as more experience is critical.
Our coaching staff looks exactly like our team. We keep losing experienced successful coaches and replacing them with a bunch a young inexperienced loyal former players. That is a recipe for disaster and we’re seeing it on the field!
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 11:53 AM
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My concern is we are missing on guys in recruiting and then scrambling late in the cycle for what is left which is usually so picked over that you are lucky to even find a 3*. The portal can help you fill a gap with an experienced and somewhat proven player and it is crazy not to selectively use it when it is available to you and everyone else.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 9:08 AM
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I think WR is the biggest need. The guy from Charlotte looks pretty good. Once XT and Mascoll let their intentions be known (and maybe they already have to Dabo) we will understand the need at DE better. A big nasty OL wouldn’t be a bad thing if the right one is available. But there is really only one open OL position if everything goes as expected.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 9:31 AM
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Agree. OL and RB would be my least worries. Especially if we get the rb commits we're hoping.
WR - 1 (maybe take 2 if scholly available)
CB - 1 (definitely need experience)
DE - (maybe 1) but could still use 1 either way
* surprised no one has mentioned an experienced LB. I know we look OK but just an injury away from zero depth and experience.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 9:23 AM
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Does not look like Clemson had even offered any of these guys. Danny Pearman doing work like usual. These guys will make good additions to a team. Won't be Clemson. Maybe Dabo will bring back the puma from GT. That way he can say he uses the portal.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 9:48 AM
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Nailed it.
"Hunter Johnson called us to ask us for a grad assistant spot, but we gave him a graduate transfer spot on the team. See, we are extremely active in the portal!"
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 12:58 PM
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Agree that's all Pearman can do but If you think he's working more than 10-2 3 days a week you crazy. He's one of Dabo's homeboy. He would still be coaching tigh ends, badly I might add, if wasn't for the racial remarks he made a couple years ago. Dabo created this position for him. Pearman serves no purpose.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 12:45 PM
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Unfortunately, we don’t use the “P” word. We’ll use Daniels left overs as walk ons for depth. There may be more friends and family in que as well. We see who is available, other teams make offers to these kids to better their programs.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 10:49 AM
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Boy, i hope we go hard after some of these guys especially DE and WR.
But, I'll have to see it to believe it. Not sure our coaching staff will truly ply the portal or just glance at it.
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 11:27 AM
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Have we offered anyone yet?
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Orange Blooded [4820]
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Clickbait dreams…
Dec 11, 2022, 11:28 AM
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That’s all
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 1:44 PM
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I agree we need to the portal for wide receivers and one running back.
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CU Guru [1052]
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 11, 2022, 3:30 PM
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Any Punters in the portal?
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Hall of Famer [21579]
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Need to go after everyone of these kids.
Dec 11, 2022, 4:33 PM
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All can help us next year.
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110%er [6138]
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Who have we offered?***
Dec 11, 2022, 11:30 PM
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Orange Blooded [3338]
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Exactly
Dec 12, 2022, 6:07 AM
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Wasted breath if we don't even take a transfer
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110%er [9031]
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Didn't realize we were so thin @ DE - are the days of the
Dec 12, 2022, 6:57 AM
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famed Clemson D line over? or am I just panicking?
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Mascot [24]
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 12, 2022, 4:49 PM
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Clemson should not participate in transfer portal acquisitions. Anyone who didn't want to be a Tiger from the beginning does not deserve to be here. If it's true Clemson is a culture, and a family...those who reject it have made their beds.
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Orange Blooded [2634]
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Re: TNET: Potential transfer portal targets for Clemson
Dec 13, 2022, 5:16 AM
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Not everyone in the portal was originally offered by Clemson and had the opportunity to “reject” us from the beginning. Geez
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Orange Blooded [4457]
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We can dream, can’t we!***
Dec 12, 2022, 11:54 PM
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