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One potential conference partnership sunk
Jul 18, 2022, 9:44 PM
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ESPN's Pete Thamel reports that the Big 12 and the Pac-12 will not be working together in any type of partnership in response to the Big Ten and SEC expansion.
On the potential ACC/Pac-12 extra alliance, Thamel reports: The Pac-12 has been exploring all options after the sudden departures of UCLA and USC have left the league without two of its top brands and no toe hold in the Los Angeles media market. The league has just two full years remaining on its underwhelming television deal, and Commissioner George Kliavkoff has been diligently exploring creative ways to generate revenue.
That's included conversations with the ACC about some sort of scheduling arrangement, but sources have told ESPN that the financial reality of that potential partnership also projects to underwhelm.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34264518/sources-big-12-pac-12-partner-talks-officially-end
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So basically, there are no options for those 2
Jul 18, 2022, 9:49 PM
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and the ACC's financial survival is dependent on Notre Dame where a renegotiation could occur. So all 3 lesser conferences are out in the cold. But only the ACC is locked in until 2036.
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Re: So basically, there are no options for those 2
Jul 18, 2022, 10:07 PM
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That’s the way it seems. I find it hard to believe though that legitimate football schools in these other 3 conferences will be left out in favor of Vandy, Illinois, Coots, Kentucky, Purdue, and the other BIG and SEC also rans. It will all sort itself out eventually. Just hopefully before it does any major damage to better programs.
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Re: So basically, there are no options for those 2
Jul 18, 2022, 10:53 PM
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I tend to agree with your idea that it will work itself out. A schedule alliance might not be a bad alternative. If the objective is eyeballs...
Thinking about your scenario, it could backfire on esecpn. Saturday prime time game features coots vs Texas getting their #### handed to them and UCLA playing a yawner in northwestern.
Then on the other station you have Miami/Oregon and the drama of cristobol et al, and opposite that you have the Clemson/Stanford game featuring Dabo and Shaw in a showdown of the good guys... I think esecpn would find out the West coast L.A. area would be tuned into our games. Especially if we could get ND (independent) into the schedule fold - same thing, ND/Washington will get plenty more eyeballs that vandy/USC or Indiana/ucla.
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I'm not a lawyer, but
Jul 19, 2022, 2:43 AM
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It would seem to me that if ESPN is potentially trying to break apart a conference's educational member institutions in a locked lower price, by trying to force consolidating some of them with another conference behind the scenes, that they also have a separate contract with, then that would be some sort of conflict of interest, or an anti-trust issue, and by not protecting those institutions themselves. I don't know. It all kind of seens sketchy to me.
I would think the schools would have more power if they chose to, since it's their programs and athletes that all of this concerns.
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Re: One potential conference partnership sunk
Jul 18, 2022, 11:01 PM
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There's one way to end all this talk. Win the natty. All of a sudden the discussion turns to " how can you leave Clemson out ? "
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Re: One potential conference partnership sunk
Jul 19, 2022, 12:02 AM
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And it will be so much fun sharing our winnings with all the other ACC teams.
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Re: One potential conference partnership sunk
Jul 19, 2022, 1:25 AM
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Thanks Brandon. Really interesting. Narrows the options a lot.
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Re: One potential conference partnership sunk
Jul 19, 2022, 6:56 AM
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I'm not sure there is any thing the Big 12 can do to drive much revenue for the league once Texas and OU leave. The B12 should have really held off on bringing Group of five schools in. I read somewhere the PAC just didn't want to be associated with that.
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Re: One potential conference partnership sunk
Jul 19, 2022, 7:03 AM
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The GOR are Clemson’s only stumbling block to leave the ACC. That said the best way out (and to remain relevant) is for 8 teams to leave and (if I understand the GOR contract) would then void the deal. I truly believe that Clemson, Miami, UNC, FSU, Va Tech have enough value that they would be desired. Ga Tech, Duke, Pitt have a geographic location that would make them attractive. Those 8 schools should unite (not in a conference together) to void the ridiculous GOR and then find the landing spot that gives them the best chance at success moving forward.
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