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RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 9:28 AM
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One thing I think I noticed yesterday is that Clemson used far less of the RPO game. The RPO (Run Pass Option) allows the QB to read a defender (a DE usually) and make a decision on whether to give to a RB, keep it, or pass. If it all works correctly, you should have an advantage in numbers. But Clemson has had issues for a long time now - the QB would make the wrong read, the RB would make the wrong read, the receiver would, an OL would not block correctly - and that's been the issue, they've simply never gotten all 11 on the same page.
So, at least on the surface, it looks like they backed off as many RPO's and just let the players play. I will ask Coach Swinney tonight and see what he says
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 9:30 AM
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Great point and look forward to the response. May RPO, RIP...
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 9:32 AM
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I applaud the departure from it as it wasn’t working. Cade really needs to add strength to be an effective runner anyway unless he has a huge hole.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 4:17 PM
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Something is different for the last two games. Spending that much time reading defenses when they change before you snap the ball does not make much sense.
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Nov 14, 2023, 8:06 AM
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Re: RPO game
Nov 15, 2023, 6:41 PM
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Just don’t say you are Tyler from Spartanburg, and all will go well.
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He asked Dabo about it in the Sunday teleconference
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Nov 13, 2023, 6:38 AM
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And Dabo pretty much told him he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Said we ran a bunch of RPOs against GT, but ran them so smoothly you just couldn’t tell.
Take it as you will.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 9:32 AM
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No doubt. The biggest difference is in the blocking. If you’re gonna run block then run block. If you’re gonna pass block then pass block. That RPO half blocking half ending up downfield when you throw robs linemen of aggression I believe.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 9:32 AM
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I noticed that as well and do think Cade is better with less critical decision points. Let’s keep that going. And - let’s scrap our new RPO play (Run Punt Option)! Burn that playsheet.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 4:18 PM
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Seems that was a big part of DJs issues also
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 9:40 AM
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We finally stopped using the RPO during the ND game last week.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 9:51 AM
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One has to wonder what would have been if we'd stopped it last year. Perhaps certain coach(s) from outside circle had an honest conversation with Dabo.
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Who would that be?
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Nov 12, 2023, 11:02 AM
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I’m curious.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 9:49 AM
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We are now running the RPO (Run Punt Option) to make up for it.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 10:15 AM
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YES AND THANK GOD THE ALMIGHTY !!!
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Nov 12, 2023, 10:18 AM
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It took far too long to realize we were terrible at executing the RPO. It never worked for us. Very thankful we’re finally trashing it. We’re much better without it.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 10:19 AM
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I'd still like to keep some zone reads to keep the defense on their toes. That way it's still just straight up run blocking and not the half run half pass blocking crap
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 10:43 AM
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No expert here, but it does seem like we’re having to dumb ourselves down to match our current talent and ability. That RPO can be extremely effective if run properly. Remember Connor Shaw carving us up in 2012? Maybe we have to give it up for now, but if Cade can put on some weight and strength, there’s a place for it, IMO.
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Re: RPO game
Nov 13, 2023, 5:33 PM
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Just maybe it is all the freshmen we are playing?
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 11:13 AM
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Agreed! I noticed this as well and hope we continue to move away from RPO gameplan with the current offensive unit ....It can be very effective if run right but it all hinges on QB play and the last time I recall having a QB running it the way it's supposed to be run was DW4
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way too da*n late for DJU, lol
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Nov 12, 2023, 11:20 AM
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It was the beginning of the real end inside the 5 against Syracuse last year.
Stubborn Dabo certainly takes a while to come around to facts, it seems.
Oh well; can’t be perfect….
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I'd say DJ ran the RPO perfectly in practice.
Nov 14, 2023, 1:08 PM
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DJ was a dunce head after the snap.
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I wish we would have used the BYE week better
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Nov 12, 2023, 2:01 PM
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And don’t this before Miami.
Not being able to score on a bad Wake team should have led to more changes like ‘less RPO’..but it seems we were convinced that we would go on the road to Miami & NCSU and win by doing the same thing.
Glad that we have come around…but we had no business losing at Miami…and at NCSU for that matter.
Here’s to a good finish!
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 12, 2023, 2:40 PM
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And then ask him why Gunn isn’t kicking
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Play action been much better
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Nov 13, 2023, 1:41 AM
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Still sketchy decisions at times, but looks much better as we go.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 3:59 AM
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My money is Cades injury is still bugging him so they don't want him to tweak it worse trying to run an Rpo.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 6:42 AM
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What were the OL changes we made last week and then during the game Saturday? Early we couldn't buy a yard then boom!
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 6:40 AM
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I’m glad we rehired Dabo to fix the issues.
He’s mad and determined now to win another Championship.
It will take a deep healthy team to win a Championship under the new playoff format,
Our secondary looks incredible, a couple really nice WR”s and the number 1 LB, look 👀 out.
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Nov 13, 2023, 7:09 AM
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I hope they bury the RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 8:28 AM
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Just let Cade throw and hand the ball off, he seems far more comfortable doing that. He can still create with his legs if we get off-schedule, but it's obvious that the RPO was hindering his ability to produce out there.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 8:31 AM
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Hey David - did you get a chance to ask Dabo your RPO question last night? If so - what was the answer?
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 9:08 AM
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Been saying that since the Dook game....for whatever reason, Cade can't run the RPO correctly. O Line and RB's can't either. Hence the fumbles/bad exchanges, missed blocking assignments, etc. It's been hard to watch.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 9:58 AM
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Well the RPO game plan was a Tony Elliot thing I believe, and if Garrett is going to be our OC, he should be the OC and not care any about how TE done things regardless, and just be himself playing the game his way. I think the RPO game plan has hung around bc that what Dabo understood better....
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 10:42 AM
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Thank goodness! A lot of issues over the last few years seemed to stem from RPO. DW4 and TL16 seemed almost always to make the exact right decision, or at least could make a misread a not-so-bad play. DJU and Klubnik, not so much.
But I really thought that the RPO made the O-line indecisive and soft, especially since they never really knew if the play behind them was going to turn into a run or pass. If you played run and pancaked someone, then might get called for being downfield if it was actually a pass. If you played pass and it was a run, you failed to make a hole.
I prefer seeing all 11 players being on the same page from the start.
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Re: RPO game....before it is over we will...
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Nov 13, 2023, 5:38 PM
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need some RPO in this offense, has been a clemson staple for years, but we are just gonna have to learn how to do it before we continue to do it, only to have costly turnovers and stalled drives because of it
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 6:56 PM
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IMO, when the OL knows it's a pass or a run, they can block better. Trying to block for what could be a run or could maybe be a pass limits them. Now they can pass block or be bulldozers on the run and who cares how far down the field they go.
We all (well most of us anyway) had to crawl before we could walk.
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 7:57 PM
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I used to think people on TigerNet could talk x and o football.
But apparently. All most of the fans on here know is that first downs are good and touchdowns are even better.
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Nov 13, 2023, 10:03 PM
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Re: RPO game
Nov 13, 2023, 10:14 PM
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I used to think people knew grammar and how to write a coherent sentence.
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Just make sure he doesnt think youre questioning him.
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Nov 13, 2023, 8:03 PM
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Dabo doesn’t like that. 😆
Thanks for all you do, David!
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Re: RPO game
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Nov 13, 2023, 8:20 PM
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We probably should have abandoned it with DJ too but as long as they are making corrections now I’m fine. Today is what I live in
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Re: RPO game
Nov 13, 2023, 10:08 PM
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We did abandon it with DJ because DJ bless his heart was much worse than Cade at the RPO.
Deshaun & Trevor thrived with it because they had Renfrow on 3rd down and really good WR’s. If our DL was stronger in 2019 we would have another National Championship too!
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Re: RPO game
Nov 15, 2023, 6:35 PM
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The RPO only works once the run is established. If the run is working well, then don't have to pass but enough to keep Defense honest.
I am becoming a fan of the Mike BoBo smash you offense and less a fan of motion and misdirection. It has its place, but shouldn't be your base b
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