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How has Boulware not been on the field more?
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How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 9:49 PM

He is everywhere making plays. Well then again our coaches could not see who to play at QB, RB, and WR for several weeks.

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 9:57 PM

You should have been hired in the player evaluations/player development department . Oh I forgot , that is what coaches do. You are no coach , but you play one on our message board.

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 10:08 PM

Did you watch the same game that everyone else did? How about the spring game? How about special teams last year? All the kid does is make plays. The fact is that our coaches play the loyalty game to guys who have been in the program and paid their dues. Steward has played well at times, but he has definitely been out of position on some big plays against us. Gurley cutback run for td ring a bell?

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He's kind of slow and under-sized


Oct 12, 2014, 11:34 PM

He has a tendency to be out of place, and has had more than his fair share of penalties.

He played great on Saturday. I hope it continues. But you calling the staff out on this is hilarious. There's no telling how he's done in practice. Aside from Saturday (where he played excellent), his full body of work hasn't been great.

I'm not sure how he would have looked against a more pass-heavy offense. I suspect that'd be tougher. He seems to legitimately love stuffing the run.

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Re: He's kind of .... I hope he's slow and undersized right


Oct 14, 2014, 7:58 AM

up against the BC's QB's ribs on every other play.

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He was supposed to guard the RB on the wheel route ...


Oct 13, 2014, 12:07 AM [ in reply to Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more? ]

... that was a long gain on Lousiville's first TD. He let the RB run right by him and then realized it was his man and turned and watched as Robert Smith tried to cover for him. Luckily the Louisville QB over threw the pass a little and the RB had to lay out to catch it. Although, they did score a play or two later.

Yes, he had a very good game and he has great instincts and is very physical, but he doesn't always seem to know what he is supposed to be doing on certain defensive play calls.

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 13, 2014, 10:28 AM [ in reply to Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more? ]

But Tony Steward is having a really good season also.

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Oh crap....another disciple of deR & 117


Oct 12, 2014, 10:10 PM [ in reply to Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more? ]

Teeny weeny syndrome trying to make others feel small due to their own insecurities.

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Re: Oh crap....another disciple of deR & 117


Oct 12, 2014, 10:30 PM

You're a ######. Nothing intelligent to say about the actual topic so that's all you could come up with? We'll see where boulware ends up when its all said and done. Go back to momma's basement big guy.

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Re: Oh crap....another disciple of deR & 117


Oct 12, 2014, 10:33 PM

Coachmac was responding to Tigerdug23 who did as you said.

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 10:00 PM

He's our best linebacker in my opinion. He blew bast Anthony to shoot a gap and tackled their runner. I think it was Anthony's gap. Like you said, he was everywhere making plays and he doesn't let loose once he gets a hold of someone. He needs to be on the field more. Period.

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If you are talking about...


Oct 12, 2014, 11:36 PM

... the play that he wasn't touched at all, that was a huge screwup on UL's OL's part. We'll take it, but he went pretty much completely unblocked. You can't do that and expect to not get nailed at this level.

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 10:02 PM

It's because he is white. Not being racist but you just notice him more because he stands out. Studies showed that blonde soccer players in European leagues got scouted and given contracts at a measurably higher rate.

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 10:07 PM

No its because of his stats. Not to mention he made the stop on 2nd and goal that was critically important!

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Here are the numbers.


Oct 12, 2014, 10:20 PM

Ben Boulware 9 Solo 1 assist!

http://www.tigernet.com/update/Clemson-Louisville-postgame-boxscore-stats-17435

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more? ]

You didn't mention that you were referring to only the game he played yesterday where he got the start and play almost all of the snaps. The infatuation with Ben has been going on long before yesterday. I'll admit that he played well. He just isn't as good as Tony. Ben is maybe as good as Goodson has been this season and I don't see a board wide infatuation for #44.

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Excellent run stopper. Not as great in pass D


Oct 12, 2014, 11:37 PM

It's way too soon to be benching Tony. Mr. T is a big, athletic specimen that has played very well so far.

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Oct 12, 2014, 10:12 PM

Boulware played OK, it's obvious why he doesn't start though.

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Oct 12, 2014, 10:21 PM

"He played ok". What game were you watching yesterday. He was dominant yesterday!

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 10:22 PM

10 Tackles, but 4 were for losses!

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Did you see the wreckage happening upfront?


Oct 12, 2014, 11:39 PM

The DL was eating that UL OL for breakfast. Usually the offense gradually wears a D out, but I think we were in their heads. It was a massacre.

I *expect* our LBs to tee off when our DL plays at that level. I'm glad the LBs could make plays, but you have to give credit to the guys who made it possible (Grady, Vic, co.)

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 10:26 PM

I believe it has been said that his pass coverage needs work.

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Oct 12, 2014, 10:38 PM

and he needs to learn to just make the play and walk away. He is going to get us some penalties if does not stop standing over the player or walking away strutting like he just won the NC. His celebrating will come back to haunt him one day

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Oct 12, 2014, 11:00 PM

> and he needs to learn to just make the play and walk
> away. He is going to get us some penalties if does
> not stop standing over the player or walking away
> strutting like he just won the NC. His celebrating
> will come back to haunt him one day

He doesn't do nearly as much celebrating/taunting as Alexander. He constantly stands over people, etc.

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Eh, screw that. I like trash talk and nasty


Oct 12, 2014, 11:40 PM [ in reply to Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more? ]

We were in their heads yesterday. They're allowed to jaw off AS LONG as they can back it up.

If you're getting drug up and down the field, you need to shut your pie hole and take your beating.

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Oct 13, 2014, 7:14 AM [ in reply to Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more? ]

Almost every kid in America does that, that isn't the reason he's not on the field. How many flags have you seen for that? Ben is gonna be a star, and gonna have a blast doing it

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Oct 12, 2014, 11:02 PM [ in reply to Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more? ]

Agreed.

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 10:44 PM

Boulware was arguably the BEST player on the entire field - on either team. Heck - you could probably add 2 or 3 other players together and they didn't measure up. Personally, I think the coaches have a problem recognizing talent. If they can't see that - then they are freaking blind. It has to do with who knocks the crap outta the other guy and does it the best. Pure and simple.

I'm just glad that Choice is playing more. We are 6 games into the season and the coaches are still trying to guess who is the best RB. Do they not even go to the practices? Geez. It's really funny whenever they finally figure it out after t-netters have been talking it for weeks. Maybe they just need to read t-net and learn how to play this game.

I'm exaggerating a lot, but just trying to make a point.

I still like my new slogan that I came up with watching Boulware play - "You've been BOULWARED". This guy will play on Sundays before long.

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Oct 12, 2014, 11:42 PM

He's done well against the run, but a lot of that yesterday was on the DL. Grady and friends were just demolishing that OL. It was a massacre. Of course the LBs are going to blow up plays when the DL is in their backfield almost every play, it's their job.

I like Boulware, he's nasty. But he's slow, undersized, and I hasn't done too hot against more pass-heavy offenses. Show me a stretch of games where he consistently knows where he's supposed to be and covers the pass and I'll get on the Ben Boulware hype train.

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Oct 12, 2014, 10:52 PM

I'm guessing because you have 2 seniors in Anthony and Steward back there. He's still so young, but obviously very talented. Bright future and high ceiling for that young man.

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Let him sub for Goodson, but


Oct 12, 2014, 11:15 PM

if the coaches didn't think that was our best 3, they wouldn't be starting. They get to see them almost daily in practice. This is what they do, and 3 straigt 10+ win seasons says they do it well (certainly better than average). I think we're a legitimate top 10 program with DeShaun, and our future is only looking brighter. There may have been one time I believed that under Bowden, (never under Hatfield or Tommy West) but we got destroyed by GT or somebody the following week. Ben is gaining valuable PT, but we pay the coaches, and pay them well, because they're good at their jobs. Under Dabo, we've sustained success not seen here since Coach Ford.

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Re: How has Boulware not been on the field more?


Oct 12, 2014, 11:14 PM

Yesterday he made all the right reads and was in the right place at the right time. Shooting someone else's gap is great when you come up with a big play, if he reads that wrong we are asking a different set of questions. He is all over the field but if you have been watching close he gets burned by that mentality just as much as he comes up with a big stop.

He does seem to contribute very well to stopping the run game and his strength is certainly tackling, once he gets to the ball the runner is not getting away. He lacks in pass coverage, whether it's reading the play or a lack of speed I'm not sure. He has potential and had a monster game but we must see him play like yesterday more consistently as well as continue to work on discipline and pass coverage.

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Against pass-heavy offenses


Oct 12, 2014, 11:45 PM

Him getting out of place is a tougher situation because he's not fast at all. He's still learning where to be and what happens when he's not.

Yesterday, the DL was just destroying that UL OL. I lost count of how many plays the DE/DTs got into the backfield. It was just nuts. The LBs were free to do their thing, and BV rushed them all over the place. Ben can pin his ears back and attack, since we knew UL was mostly going to try to pound it. That's playing right into his wheelhouse.

I like the guy, but hope we can mix in some people who are a little more physically gifted. Ideally he's first off the bench. They come bigger and faster than he.

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Completely agree


Oct 13, 2014, 1:18 AM

I know a lot of people think highly of Boulware because he is physical but I have not been very high on him based off what I have seen him do on the field. He will be a great player off the bench but Steward is much better in pass coverage and I think players like register and Kendall Joseph will get the nod next year over Boulware because of the advantage they have with their size.

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Oct 12, 2014, 11:41 PM



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He had a good game but 2 weeks ago


Oct 13, 2014, 1:06 AM

he was playing like ### against UNC. His mental blunders last year almost cost us big as well. SA was ready to beat his #### on the field vs UNC for not knowing the play calls and not playing his assignments. He has a history of playing out of control and not his team responsibilities. I hope yesterday was a sign he is growing past that. Though it looked like a couple plays he was very fortunate they didn't torch him. But if he's starting this Saturday, it's because Stewart is not 100% yet and/or scheme.

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Re: He had a good game but 2 weeks ago


Oct 13, 2014, 6:37 AM

I reckon I our defense sucks now so we have to call our talent guys and defensive coaches stupid BC they started a guy who played really well. Yep that makes a ton of sense right there

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who said our D sucks, who said they were stupid


Oct 13, 2014, 9:22 AM

all I'm implying is TS plays his responsibilities and can be trusted more than BB--that's why he was the starter. Both are talented and both played very well their last time out. I'm just staying if TS is 100%, then I think he is the starter. No need to rush a hamstring though, so my guess is that is why BB is getting the start. He's got to continue to play his responsibilities and prove to his teammates and coaches they can trust him every down.

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Wasn't the criticism of Boulware that he plays undisciplined


Oct 13, 2014, 6:52 AM

and gets out of position? That's something the coaches know that we can't really see from watching TV.

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Venables has been developing LB talent


Oct 13, 2014, 7:04 AM

for many years. He has coached really great linebackers everywhere he has been.

If he doesn't see Boulware as the best man for the starting job, I'll bet its because he isn't the best one for the job on our team.

You guys on here with your one game instant analysis of our coaches' decision making is hilarious.

I'll go with what Coach V thinks. Maybe I'm wrong, but he has way way more experience
and knowledge at evaluating linebacker talent than you armchair geniuses do.

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There has never been a question on whether or not he could


Oct 13, 2014, 7:00 AM

make plays. It's always been about whether or not he could play assignment football and not give up the big play. If he makes two tackles for loss and then misses an assignment he will hurt you more than help you. The fan rarely recognizes a missed assignment, but only remembers the great plays made. It looks like Ben is learning to play assignment football and as a result will see more playing time. I hope because he is fun to watch!

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