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Orange Blooded [2684]
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Why we beat the mutts
Aug 12, 2014, 1:39 PM
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Our front 7 slows down Gurley, bottom line. I do think he will make some good plays because he is one of the best rb's in the nation, but his production will be greatly diminished. Our front 7 improved a lot as the season progressed last year. Our line will be more polished and I think our backers will be better.
The top 3 backs we faced during the regular season were Gurley, Andre Williams, and Mike Davis. Gurley got his yards, but that was at the beginning of the year, and 75 of those came on a run that he was untouched. Williams had 70 yards when he averaged 167, and Davis had 22 when he averaged 98. Both of those backs averaged more yards per carry than Gurley last year.
If Gurley doesn't break off a huge run, I expect to keep him under 100 yards. If we do that, then I think we win. I don't believe that Mason can beat us with his arm, especially since he will be running for his life most of the night.
Go tigers!!
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Re: Why we beat the mutts
Aug 12, 2014, 1:42 PM
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Mason is not an asset and non-factor IMO - he is more of a liability, and will kill numerous drives single-handily.
Gurley - I agree - gotta stop (slow) him as much as possible. HE is their offense.
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Don't forget about Marshall and the others. UGA is loaded...
Aug 12, 2014, 1:46 PM
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at RB.
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Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 1:48 PM
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 2:09 PM
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Marshall did absolutely nothing and I don't expect him to this year. Their freshman backs will hopefully be a non-factor. I don't know enough about them to comment, but I doubt they are better than Marshall at this point.
People also don't talk about their offensive line. Didn't they have a senior heavy line last year? All I heard before the game was that they would have one of the best o-lines we would see.
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Orange Blooded [2455]
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Their O-Line was bigtime overrated. No consistent push
Aug 12, 2014, 2:22 PM
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Them getting some of those guys back this year is a big plus for us. They couldn't blow our DL off the ball with any consistency, really hurt their ground game.
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Re: Their O-Line was bigtime overrated. No consistent push
Aug 12, 2014, 3:04 PM
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Our Oline is always overated, It is always our biggest weakness. Think this years offense will be different of that you saw last year. You will see a lot more dinks and dunks this year.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 3:02 PM
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Marshall only played 5 games before his injury. he rushed for 246. Which if he played for Clemson would make him you guys leading returning rusher, I believe. Is Brooks your only proven returning guy? I see he rushed for 236 thru 9 games.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 3:06 PM
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We're quite content to have unrecognized talent in our backfield. You'll know their names very well by the 4th quarter.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 3:14 PM
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"We're quite content to have unrecognized talent in our backfield. You'll know their names very well by the 4th quarter."
Yeah. Okay. Everyone wants to start their season with an unknown quanity in their backfield.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 3:15 PM
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You all said the same thing about McDowell last year and he rushed for 130 yards. The backs that were behind him last year are more talented, but had less experience. I am not worried about our running backs this year. It would not surprise me one bit if we out rushed you even though you have the more talented back.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 5:49 PM
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How much did you win by?
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 6:00 PM
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the guy said Marshall did nothing. never disputed the score.
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You guys beat the coots though, right?
Aug 12, 2014, 6:04 PM
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I think that means lightbulbbill would buy your coach a drink @ The Esso Club.
Not Dabo though.
Cuz he hasn't beaten the coots in half a decade.
The funny thing about that is that it hasn't really mattered until now with the whole playoff thing.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 9:02 PM
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80 yards? How about you get your facts straight superdouche. He had 16 carries for 43 yards. A stunning 2.6 yards per carry. He did have that one good run for a touchdown. I actually like Marshall. He is a class act, but he did not have a good game against Clemson.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 12, 2014, 10:36 PM
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He said total yards. Not a decent game, but it wasn't bad. Marshall is a guy that only plays as good as our OL plays. He is a guy who can break off a long one if he finds a crease.
Gurley gets or gets close to 100 yards no matter how good the OL plays. I am biased, but he's the best in the country.
I look for Sanford to be the difference.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 7:44 AM
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I guess I misread, but for a running back to average 2.6 yards per carry is not f
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 7:47 AM
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I hit send before I was done with my reply.
I guess I misread, but for a running back to average 2.6 yards per carry is not a good game at all. I don't care if he had 30 reception yards when he was wide open. Also, I agree that Gurley is one of the best backs in the nation, but our d-line is as well. If Gurley has 100 yards
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 7:50 AM
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Did it again. Typing on an iPhone sucks
If Gurley had 100 yards or less, then I think we win comfortably.
Do you all think Chubbs is going to come in and instantly be a greater talent than Marshall right out of the gates?
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 8:06 AM
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Sony Michel is ahead of Chubb and both of them are behind Keith Marshal. lets face it neither one of the teams are short on running backs.
Special teams and big plays will probably be the deciding factors 'tween the hedges and that 'homer field factor hopefully comes into play as it did for you all last season.
It's a big game and a litmus test on the season make no doubt about it but, IMO it beats starting against Western Nevada in a gimme....
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 11:55 AM
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not certain at this point but there's a possibility that you might have two Gurley's to deal with. Chubb is 225 with sprinters speed. he's been impressive so far in camp. Gurley/Chubb are the power backs then you have slashers Marshall/Michel. i'm sure you'll see them all on 8-30.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 8:28 AM
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Hence why I said I misread your post. All I'm saying is that he didn't have a very good game, so the only back I'm worried about is Gurley.
I think that We match up better with you all this year, but home field advantage will play a huge factor in the game IMO.
We have only won twice at UGA in the last 99 years. That is a factor that many of of us Clemson fans overlook. Lucky for us we have a veteran team that will help negate that advantage.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 9:17 AM
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I agree with the premise of "stop Gurley (or the UGA RBs in general) and Clemson will have a very good chance at winning."
However, nobody has really been able to do that.
My feeling is our running game with get theirs and if Gurley is healthy, I would be surprised if he had less than 100 yards rushing.
The key for CU defense will be stopping Mason and our passing game when we are forced to pass.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 9:35 AM
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My point is that our front 7 greatly improved last year as the season went on. Mike Davis had 20 yards rushing against us and he had arguably a more productive year than Gurley last year. I know Gurley was banged up but Davis did average more yards per carry against the same vaunted SEC defenses.
We lost nobody on our very deep and talented line. We lost two linebackers, but I believe Steward/ Boulware will be just as good as Shuey and I think we will be better at the other backer spot. I never really liked quandon. He seemed to let the action come to him instead of seek contact. And apparently Anthony is playing with his head on fire in camp.
All that being said, it is very plausible we keep Gurley at or below 100 yards
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 10:17 AM
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> All that being said, it is very plausible we keep
> Gurley at or below 100 yards
Anything is possible.
Wouldnt sleep on Marshall, Douglas, Turman, or even Michel and Chubb. Gonna be a lot of capable backs in the rotation this year.
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 11:35 AM
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Don't forget Andre Williams (the NCAA leading rusher of 2013)...who against Fl State averaged 5.3 yds per carry (28 for 149 yds), but only had a 2.9 yard average against us (24 for 70 yrds)
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Re: Yes, but Marshall did nothing last year***
Aug 13, 2014, 11:28 AM
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only 43 of them on the ground in 16 carries, averaging 2.7 yards per carry, longest being 6 yards....running game wise, he did nothing but a short yardage touchdown. Had 2 receptions (9 yd and 19 yard, none of which ended in the endzone)....
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Yes. Stop the run
Aug 12, 2014, 3:04 PM
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We win
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I think you nailed it.***
Aug 12, 2014, 3:20 PM
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Nice 3rd post... Close to how I see it. Your point about GA
Aug 12, 2014, 5:17 PM
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game being first of last year goes somewhat unnoticed by some. We've faced some very good RBs ever since the LSU game and none have done that well, certainly not like they have against their other competition in general. +1.
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You lost me with your first sentence.
Aug 12, 2014, 5:20 PM
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The front 7 slows him down? So you're saying that every time Gurley touches the ball he'll have to be tackled by the Clemson secondary??
& you think the game will be close??
WRONG, bucko.
The front 7 STOPS GURLEY DEAD IN HIS TRACKS.
END OF THREAD.
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Re: Why we beat the mutts
Aug 12, 2014, 7:00 PM
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Your d-line should be as good as advertised but if Gurley gets through that look out. LB play is what will make or break your defense. Georgia will give you a heavy dose of Gurley and use the play action to hit on quick slants when the line is stacked.
I see this game being the same as last year but with more defense. I see it as being a close game coming down to who scores last. I'm really looking forward to this one it should be a great game.
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What about Chubbs???
Aug 12, 2014, 7:10 PM
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Dear lawd what about Chubbs???
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The kaaawheeeeeere shorts?
Aug 12, 2014, 7:13 PM
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What the heck does that have to do with jawjaw?
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Re: What about Chubbs???
Aug 12, 2014, 8:19 PM
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I could see a full dose of Gurley in the first half the Nick Chubbs in the second half. That could yield a loss. However, I could see the emergence of McCullough at FB late in the second half to sustain a game winning drive with no answers from UGA along with a steady dose of Leggett in the flats! Boom!
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Re: What about Chubbs???
Aug 12, 2014, 8:19 PM
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I could see a full dose of Gurley in the first half the Nick Chubbs in the second half. That could yield a loss. However, I could see the emergence of McCullough at FB late in the second half to sustain a game winning drive with no answers from UGA along with a steady dose of Leggett in the flats! Boom!
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Re: What about Chubbs???
Aug 12, 2014, 8:40 PM
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I could see a full dose of Gurley in the first half the Nick Chubbs in the second half. That could yield a loss. However, I could see the emergence of McCullough at FB late in the second half to sustain a game winning drive with no answers from UGA along with a steady dose of Leggett in the flats! Boom!
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Watch out for them throwing it to Gurley, rb's on wheel
Aug 13, 2014, 8:17 AM
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routes and such have been a weakness for our defense. Safeties will have to be aware.
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Re: Watch out for them throwing it to Gurley, rb's on wheel
Aug 13, 2014, 9:50 AM
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I agree. You can't completely sell out on the run or your defense will get burned. Gurley and company will get yards on the ground without a doubt, you just can't let him break containment. They will get there yards between the 20's but you will need to make them throw it inside the red zone when the field is shortened. I don't think there QB is good enough to score TD's when forced to. Keep them scoring FG's and you should win.
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Re: Watch out for them throwing it to Gurley, rb's on wheel
Aug 13, 2014, 10:20 AM
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> I agree. You can't completely sell out on the run or
> your defense will get burned. Gurley and company will
> get yards on the ground without a doubt, you just
> can't let him break containment. They will get there
> yards between the 20's but you will need to make them
> throw it inside the red zone when the field is
> shortened. I don't think there QB is good enough to
> score TD's when forced to. Keep them scoring FG's and
> you should win.
Yep...agree with this analysis.
Except the part where Mason "is not good enough"... he is a smart QB with a quick release and knows the offense well. I dont think he's quite as athletic as Murray but is a few inches taller so should have better field vision. Overall, due to his time in the system and his intelligence, I think he will be a good QB for us this year.. Just how good...TBD...
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