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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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I think the Comey testimony might be the first time I ever..
Jun 12, 2017, 7:51 AM
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noticed a public statement from a prosecutor's witness. I don't recall a time when the prosecutor and a witness had a personal relationship either. Word is they've worked together for 30 years. That's a new one on me too.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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The Ruling Class in Washington is incestual.***
Jun 12, 2017, 8:11 AM
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All-In [48078]
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^^^^ d**che bag******
Jun 12, 2017, 8:29 AM
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Truth hurt?***
Jun 12, 2017, 2:23 PM
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All-In [48078]
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I don't think you mind being the D**che Bag you are.
Jun 12, 2017, 2:41 PM
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It doesn't seem that truth hurts you a bit. You're probably just ignorant though. An ignorant d**che bag.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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LOL... living rent free in Carlsbad's head.***
Jun 12, 2017, 2:59 PM
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110%er [7231]
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So now you like welfare?***
Jun 12, 2017, 3:13 PM
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110%er [6704]
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What is your deal?
Jun 12, 2017, 9:48 PM
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is this how you deal with someone that has a different opinion than yours? Call them names? You have done it on numerous occasions.
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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Those two have the hots on each other.
Jun 12, 2017, 10:16 PM
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We should take up a collection and get them a room for the weekend so they can work out the tension between them.
J/K folks, I love you both.
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110%er [7231]
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What prosecutor are you referring to?***
Jun 12, 2017, 8:36 AM
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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Re: What prosecutor are you referring to?***
Jun 12, 2017, 8:40 AM
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Mueller, and yes I'm fully aware of the gravity of my statement.
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Re: What prosecutor are you referring to?***
Jun 12, 2017, 8:48 AM
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Don't prosecutors and police and professional (psychologists, ballistic experts, etc.) witnesses have professional relationship all of the time?
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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Yes, but most of them probably...
Jun 12, 2017, 9:00 AM
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weren't just fired by the defendant.
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Walk-On [149]
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Re: Yes, but most of them probably...
Jun 12, 2017, 9:44 AM
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After watching Comey's testimony last week, do you believe he blatantly lied on the stand under oath?
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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I'll say this...
Jun 12, 2017, 10:01 AM
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Earlier under oath Comey stated that no one had ordered him to stop an investigation. In his last testimony he appeared to change his testimony. Some of his visits had passed when he first testified before congress.
When a man lies he is a liar. I know because I'm a liar at heart. I must have been born that way. At times I have to make myself tell the truth. It's often uncomfortable even to the point of being painful. However, over the years I have learned that I can not get away with lying. It seems I've always been exposed.
But, God is good to me. He knows my nature and makes sure I get away with very little. That's another reason I believe as Prod that God doesn't love everyone. Some people can lie and 'nothing,' they get away with it.
We'll see.
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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1. He just got fired.
Jun 12, 2017, 10:31 AM
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I didn't even have to research to know this. I've been fired and I've fired people. It's not as bad a divorced, I'll give you that. 
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Re: Yes, but most of them probably...
Jun 12, 2017, 10:17 AM
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trump is not a defendant, yet. And he is in this position because he can not keep his mouth shut. you are blaming everyone except for the guy that caused this shitstorm.
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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This isn't about what trump said...
Jun 12, 2017, 10:34 AM
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it's about what he is doing and intends to do.
What exactly did Trump say which you believe is causing this witch hunt?
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If I had to pick one
Jun 12, 2017, 10:38 AM
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it'd probably be the interview where he said he fired Comey for the whole Russia thing.
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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Honestly, I agree.
Jun 12, 2017, 10:53 AM
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Trump asked Comey to reveal that Trump wasn't the subject of the Russia collusion. If you'll consider that trump is a human you can appreciate that anyone in those circumstances would want it revealed that he wasn't even being investigated much less to proclaim his innocence.
Comey couldn't in good faith proclaim Trump was innocent. There's no way to substantiate such a claim. He could have said Trump wasn't being investigated. That may have been against FBI protocol but Comey doesn't seem above breaking protocol after the Hillary debacle.
Btw, Trump didn't need a reason to fire the director of the FBI. The Dir, serves at the discretion of the POTUS. Trump is the POTUS and the Russian/Trump collusion story would have been the subject of any such statement.
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Orange Blooded [2455]
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Nobody is arguing that he COULDN'T fire Comey
Jun 12, 2017, 12:05 PM
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> Btw, Trump didn't need a reason to fire the director of the FBI. The Dir, serves at the discretion of the POTUS. Trump is the POTUS and the Russian/Trump collusion story would have been the subject of any such statement.
Nobody is arguing against this. The point is that he had admitted to firing Comey over the "Russian thing". The timing and the circumstances make this look like a very questionable move.
Trump can most definitely fire the FBI Director at his discretion. He can also be investigated for obstruction of justice as a result of this move.
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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Let me say this with fewer words.
Jun 12, 2017, 3:41 PM
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Comey was fired for not telling the American people that Trump wasn't being investigated for collusion with Russia. Russia/Trump collusion would have been the topic had Comey discussed this in front of a camera and mic.
If you want a short concise response this is The End!!!
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The brave might choose to read on for more idle speculation.
From Trump's perspective he did the right thing for firing Comey and telling the truth:
1. The truth is that Trump wasn't being investigated for collusion with Russia and Comey confirmed that under oath.
2. Trump has lawyers and the AG to advise him so he weighed the results of firing comey against allowing the media and democrats to continue to produce fake news which tied him into a Russian collusion scheme.
3. May have reacted as I would being that we are near the same age and seem to have about the same grasp on behaving with political savvy. If for no other reason I would have fired Comey for holding his tongue then told the media and dems to suck it, called them liars in public, accused them of conducting a witch hunt in public and continued on my bidness of presidenting. 
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Re: Let me say this with fewer words.
Jun 12, 2017, 7:21 PM
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> Comey was fired for not telling the American people
> that Trump wasn't being investigated for collusion
> with Russia. Russia/Trump collusion would have been
> the topic had Comey discussed this in front of a
> camera and mic.
Nothing prevented Trump, Sessions or Rosenstein from saying it publically.
Swing and a miss.
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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Trump said he was innocent and you ignored him.
Jun 12, 2017, 10:15 PM
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Tell me why you wouldn't have ignored him had he said he wasn't under investigation? Let me answer that for you.
You would have claimed he ordered the investigation into his participation in the collusion halted and was guilty of obstruction of justice.
Sessions recused himself from the investigation because he knew dems would say, 'The fix is in,' had he participated.
Dems don't follow rules, if they want something know they just leak it. One of those rapscallions admitted he'd leaked to the news while under oath a few days ago. Remember?
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110%er [7231]
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I'm missing something.
Jun 12, 2017, 8:55 AM
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Comey testified in front of the Senate, Mueller was appointed by Rod Rosenstein. They're both career lawyers and former directors of the FBI, so what are the odds they'd have a relationship?
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Re: I think the Comey testimony might be the first time I ever..
Jun 12, 2017, 1:19 PM
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Just say it. You're a pro-Trump guy. You're willing to spin the news to fit your narrative just like the libs spin the news to fit theirs.
My only challenge is that, on both sides, spinning by it's nature highlights some facts and discards others.
It's ok, we all feel strongly about this issue. We're American's, we love to hate the president.
The right hated Clinton
The left hated Bush
The right hated Obama
Now the left, the middle and the independents hate Trump.
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Oculus Spirit [94212]
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"When you say that smile, pilgrim.." JW
Jun 12, 2017, 3:46 PM
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I am always going to try and see Trump's side.
I didn't hate Clinton until he lied about having sex with that woman. A BJ is sex to the recipient. Maybe not to the provider but certainly to the recipient.
I soon got over it after he left office in lieu of his personality.
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