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Orange Blooded [4118]
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The judge thats about to put Trump in jail (without a jury)
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May 6, 2024, 9:57 AM
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donated to the following organizations:
- Joe Biden's campaign
- Progressive Turnout Project
- Stop Republicans
Ah, the blind eye of NY “justice”…
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he's putting himself in jail
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by interfering with judicial process
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Most children learn there are times to #### in elementary school
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If there are parents didn’t teach them first.
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110%er [7314]
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Nobody tell this guy how bail works.***
May 6, 2024, 10:14 AM
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there is no bail for contempt
May 6, 2024, 12:53 PM
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I'm pretty sure he already knows that
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Re: The judge thats about to put Trump in jail (without a jury)
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May 6, 2024, 10:23 AM
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Also, his daughter is an executive officer of a NGO known as ‘Authentic,’ which is a digital messaging firm for the Democrat party.
Loren Merchan was instrumental in raising ~ $93,000,000 for Democrat politicians, including Check Schumer. BTW, that $93MM figure was before the Trump ‘hush money’ trial had begun.
Also, Ms. Merchan gets a sizable commission from the money raised for the ‘messaging’ campaigns that Authentic arranges for the Democrat candidates. I think that Authentic’s commissions are in the ~ 10% range. Loren Merchan is getting rich, as anti-Trump messaging is manna from heaven as far as Authentic’s professional services go.
^^^^ is why Trump decries the corruption of the judge in this case. He’s got an argument.
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Orange Blooded [4118]
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I know! Seriously!
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May 6, 2024, 10:27 AM
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He tweets something that anyone could google and find out for themselves
Boom: $1000 fine
Now the ole “law and order” Juan is threatening jail time
Amazing how these leftist judges made a name for themselves by letting real criminals walk are getting all this faux “law and order” religion now
Bunch of crooks
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Re: those living in glass houses...
May 6, 2024, 10:39 AM
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^^^ Birm getting some relief from that hot poke he took ^^^***
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Re: ^^^ Birm getting some relief from that hot poke he took ^^^***
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May 6, 2024, 12:39 PM
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Yet, he keeps going back for more!
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A jury being involved is not a prerequisite for jail time.
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If DJT is so stupid he can't shut his fugging mouth he shouldn't be running our country. I think we already knew that though.
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^^^^ not an FNC watcher^^^^***
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Orange Blooded [4118]
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I didn't say that a jury was a prerequisite
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May 6, 2024, 11:39 AM
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I'm just observing the spectacle of a compromised judge with extreme preexisting bias impeding the first amendment rights of the leading presidential candidate favors the Don in the court of public opinion (which is the court that's going to decide all of this)
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Well, it seemed implied to me. Similarly
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May 6, 2024, 11:47 AM
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I'm just observing the spectacle of a compromised presidential candidate with extreme inability to shut his F'ing mouth long enough to be tried in a court of law, and his supporters thinking not following court ordered mandates to stop intimidating those involved thinking this has a single thing to do with 1st amendment rights. DJT is actually strengthening the same court of opinion that had people holding their nose to vote for Biden just to get that idiot out of office.
Get a speeding ticket, go to court, show your #### and talk over the judge. Let that judge tell you to hush and you keep carrying on. I'll GUARANTEE you you'll be led away in handcuffs and put into a jail cell, and ain't nobody involved with give 2 Fcks about who voted for who and who donated to what.
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Orange Blooded [4118]
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If that were the case, then Biden should be leading in the polls
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May 6, 2024, 11:58 AM
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And dominating the swing states with all the undecided voters
Apparently there’s a bunch of regular folks that havegotten speeding tickets always wanted to tell a biased judge to #### off. And they are living vicariously through trump now
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BTW, something happened to tone down the judges - - -
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May 6, 2024, 1:00 PM
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- - - eagerness to keep tooting the Trump / gag order horn.
Wonder what happened?
‘Legitimate’ news outlets started writing articles warning that Trump / hush money judge Juan Merchan was leaving the entire case open to interlocutors appeal (I.e., a type of appeals process that interrupts the normal proceedings of an active lawsuit that may end up in a dismissal of the charges). This ‘leaving the case open to interlocutory appeal’ is from the judge’s refusal to gag outrageous public comments from star witnesses Michael Cohen and Stephanie Clifford (aka Stormy Daniels) in contrast to the broad (not specifically defined) gag order which he had imposed on Trump.
Since these articles came out, Judge Merchan has been treading more carefully re threats of jailing Trump. Yet, if he suddenly stops altogether with the gag order ‘violations,’ then Judge Merchan’s original decision to implement the Trump gag order will look illegitimate.
Making matters even more tricky for Judge Merchan, the trial thus far has revealed major weakness to the prosecution, specifically from the testimony of the prosecution’s key witnesses thus far. And Michael Cohen’s testimony didn’t even start until today; the prosecution team (which includes Judge Merchan as a tacit member) is struggling to weave their case against Trump together.
I’m trying to remember if CNN was among the ‘legitimate’ News sources. Anyways,it sure looks like Judge Merchan’s handlers have instructed him to cool it on the gag order stuff.
(*). To be fair to several of TNet’s TDS’ers, they opined that the Trump / hush money lawsuit was stupid and would likely end up benefitting Trump moreso than hurting him. They may turn out to be right.
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Tone down, like since a few hours ago?***
May 6, 2024, 2:33 PM
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"The Don"? Lawd, you got a little on your chin there
May 6, 2024, 12:56 PM
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This application of courtroom rules and enforcement applies to every single person in court. Why shouldn't it apply to Trump?
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Orange Blooded [4118]
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Ok, so when should we expect gag orders on
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May 6, 2024, 2:22 PM
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Cohen and Daniels?
Since these rules apply to everyone and all…
And how did he intimidate anyone? This whole charade is total weak sauce
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Re: Ok, so when should we expect gag orders on
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May 6, 2024, 2:27 PM
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Cohen and Daniels?
Since these rules apply to everyone and all…
And how did he intimidate anyone? This whole charade is total weak sauce
Do not use rational thoughts with them, it makes them mad
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He's consistently called the judge, the jurors, and the whole process...
May 6, 2024, 3:06 PM
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Unfair and rigged. Cohen and Daniels aren't doing that.
His most recent:
"That jury was picked so fast — 95% Democrats. The area's mostly all Democrat. It's a very unfair situation, that I can tell you."
In social media posts, he wrote:
Cohen and Daniels are "two sleaze bags who have, with their lies and misrepresentations, cost our Country dearly!"
Among others. Not only is a judge trying to prevent potential jurors from being influenced by the posts made before the selection, but he's mainly trying to prevent attacks and harassments on them and their families which we know crazy ### Trumpers will do.
The judge has told him to stop trying to stir up his base against the court and the jurors, and Trump keeps defying him. What else is the judge supposed to do?
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Pompous predicktive premise in italics.***
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Re: He's consistently called the judge, the jurors, and the whole process...
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May 6, 2024, 7:38 PM
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“Among others. Not only is a judge trying to prevent potential jurors from being influenced by the posts made before the selection, but he's mainly trying to prevent attacks and harassments on them and their families which we know crazy ### Trumpers will do.“
^^^^ is an example of what the law refers to as the ‘hecklers’ veto.’
Hecklers’ veto pertains to comments or actions from people not connected to a lawsuit or a trial that are unpleasant or that upset people who are part of the lawsuit / trial. Threats from anyone are a criminal matter, and the remedy for such threats is to report said threats to the court, which in turn assigns law enforcement to investigate, and in which the ‘threatening entity’ gets arrested and convicted.
Hecklers’ veto is not sufficient grounds, by itself, is not grounds to gag someone. Neither is the past history of a defendant or plaintiff sufficient to justify a gag order.
(This ‘Trump gag’ isn’t necessarily targeted to silence Trump’s speech about witnesses. Members of the judicial staff are also included, as well as family members of judges who make enormous money from publicizing the latest ‘get Trump’ news, are also shielded from criticism via the gag orders in Trump.)
(*). The gag orders that have been imposed upon Trump in each of the NY cases are ‘justified’ by tautological reasoning.
(1) Everyone knows that Trump intimidates witnesses, and so his speech must be gagged at the start of a trial.
(2) Because Trump has been gagged so often, witnesses are afraid that he will intimidate them if he isn’t gagged.
This is akin to the self-feeding earthworm; the earthworm pewps, then eats his own pewp. The earthworm pewps again, and then eats his own pewp again.
(This ‘Trump gag’ isn’t necessarily targeted to silence Trump’s speech about witnesses. Members of the judicial staff are also included, as well as family members of judges who make enormous money from publicizing the latest ‘get Trump’ news, are also shielded from criticism via the gag orders in Trump.)
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This really isn't hard
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May 7, 2024, 7:42 AM
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When a judge tells people not to talk publicly about a case, especially if they're known for their intimidation and especially if they have a mob of idiot, blind followers, and that person refuses to comply, punishments will be dealt accordingly.
Again, we know the motive is that y'all want him to be able to intimidate jurors and stir up his mob.
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Orange Blooded [4118]
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So why doesn't the judge man up
May 7, 2024, 11:29 PM
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And throw trump in jail?
And don't give us this “because he's a nice guy” bs
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I dunno. Maybe he's weighing the gravity...
May 8, 2024, 7:49 AM
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Of what will happen with Trump's angry, stupid, irrational mob of followers and what they'll do if their savior is jailed.
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If you believe that pile of crap
May 8, 2024, 8:07 AM
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I've got some beach front property to sell you in Arizona
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Yeah, I can't imagine a scenario where...
May 8, 2024, 8:35 AM
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Trump's idiot, violent supporters would ever mob together to do something insane, like storming a government building or something.
Surely that would never happen.
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Ok, so if the whimpy judge is so scared of the one guy protesting
May 8, 2024, 9:37 AM
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Why are they even having the trial to begin with
He could have easily dismissed it on it's weak merits
The judge knows jail time for the gag order will be grounds for a federal appeal that will delay him from being able to return a bogus guilty verdict for his White House handlers before the election
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Because Trump's a criminal.***
May 8, 2024, 10:07 AM
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No way Trump actually goes to jail.
May 6, 2024, 11:52 AM
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But that would be awesome. Lock! Him! Up!
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Re: No way Trump actually goes to jail.
May 6, 2024, 1:02 PM
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Ha ha … but you know, and you know that I know, that none of the smart TDS’ers want Trump to get any time in jail for this ‘hush money’ case.
Your enthusiasm is noted, though.
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I definitely do.***
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Re: No way Trump actually goes to jail.
May 6, 2024, 2:28 PM
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But that would be awesome. Lock! Him! Up!
Said by a product of a law school, wow the standards sure have gone down for law students.
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Not really; theyve always been trash. Local commercials prove this.***
May 6, 2024, 2:30 PM
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Honest question
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May 6, 2024, 12:20 PM
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If:
1) A defendant in a case repeatedly refuses to obey a judge's instructions (and in this case completely normal and standard instructions)
2) The judge fines the defendant for his behavior, but that fine (while the statutory max) does nothing to change the defendant's behavior
What would you have the judge do? Because on paper, the lack of a threat of effecting the defendant's actual freedom, would really seem to imply that a rich defendant could repeatedly and without any real recourse thumb their nose at the judge.
I thought yall were all pro-law-and-order?
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Putting Trump in jail = Guaranteed path to the WH.
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May 6, 2024, 12:23 PM
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You dimlibs need to be careful what you ask for.
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Do you want Trump to win?***
May 6, 2024, 12:25 PM
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I do not want a dim to win.
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May 6, 2024, 12:34 PM
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I am not a huge (not yuge) DJT fan but will vote republican. I will not vote for any dimlib.
If it's Trump, so be it. Joe needs to retire, the DNC needs to force him out.
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Re: I do not want a dim to win.
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May 6, 2024, 1:15 PM
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Got it. So you and I both want Trump to go to jail. You because it guarantees Trump a win, me because he goes to jail.
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I'm trying to understand how this works
May 6, 2024, 12:30 PM
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You're telling me there are a bunch of people out there who are on the fence about this election but will suddenly change their minds if he goes to jail?
Got some stats on that?
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Pundits.
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May 6, 2024, 12:36 PM
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That's what they're saying.
I do not work for PEW research. Call them.
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So you think there are a bunch of Jim Bob Cooters out there
May 6, 2024, 12:47 PM
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Who are saying, "By Gawd, I wasn't gonna vote for Trump, but if this judge done sends him to the poke, then I'm all in!"
Yeah. No.
I think what might actually be happening is y'all know there's a good chance he'll go to jail--because he deserves it--and y'all are just making up some stuff to scare people.
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Please define "Jim Bob Cooter"
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May 6, 2024, 12:50 PM
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I'm not familiar with that term.
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Offensive coordinator for the Colts and former (real) USC QB
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May 6, 2024, 12:51 PM
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I like using his name to just describe the average dude. Sounds more fun than Joe Blow or something like that.
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Re: So you think there are a bunch of Jim Bob Cooters out there
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May 6, 2024, 1:10 PM
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There’s some nuance regarding the situation in which Trump’s popularity increases if he spends time in jail (even if ‘time’ is only a few hours).
If Trump gets a guilty verdict in the federal election interference suit, then his popularity will decrease.
If Trump gets a guilty verdict in the ‘hush money’ suit, then his popularity is not expected to change much. HOWEVER, if Trump gets time in the pokey during the ‘hush money’ suit … especially so if the trial ends up in a hung jury … then Trump gets a big boost.
(*). Sending Trump to jail for a gag order violation isn’t considered to be advantageous to TDS’ers desired political outcome, according to pollsters.
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Still waiting for some data on this
May 6, 2024, 1:12 PM
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Because none of that makes any sense.
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A hung jury legitimizes Evangelicals sleeping with #### stars and mistresses!
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May 6, 2024, 1:34 PM
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And using fraud to cover up the payments! It’s a win-win!
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Why didnt the DOJ bring a campaign finance case then?***
May 6, 2024, 2:20 PM
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NY State business fraud laws are applicable regardless of DOJ***
May 6, 2024, 2:27 PM
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The NY law was past the statute of limitations.
May 6, 2024, 2:38 PM
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Admit this is garbage but you are cheering it on anyway. Just admit it.
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Its entertainment. The statute of limitations will be determined in Court.***
May 6, 2024, 3:30 PM
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Entertainment? No, it's election interference, though that probably qualifies...***
May 6, 2024, 5:04 PM
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Bingo!
May 6, 2024, 2:38 PM
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You can bet your ### if there were even the tiniest window of a case, they would have brought it by now
But their isn't and this is the best they have.
And they are now stuck with a bunch amateur prosecutors making unforced errors and political judges that are opening all sorts of opportunities for appeal
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The prosecutor left a 3rd highest in the DOJ just for this case.
May 6, 2024, 3:17 PM
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Wonder why? Cause the WH is directing this abortion of the legal system.
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You'd either have to be
May 6, 2024, 1:58 PM
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a complete idiot to have your name on the donation list, or be so comfy in your and your orgs corruptness that you don't care.
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Hey, how come you didn't mention those contributions add up to $35?***
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Orange Blooded [4118]
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Re: Hey, how come you didn't mention those contributions add up to $35?***
May 6, 2024, 2:42 PM
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Because a judge in New York city is making below the poverty line (thanks to Joe Biden), and $35 bucks is a big deal to him
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CU Guru [1035]
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What's the saying? "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime?"***
May 8, 2024, 8:23 AM
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