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If PSU had ANY concern for the victims of their cover-up...
Sep 4, 2012, 10:04 PM
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...THEY would insist on NO TV COVERAGE OF THEIR FOOTBALL PROGRAM THIS YEAR!
The culture has not changed at all there...they still worship their FB program and protect it at all cost, no matter how injurious it is to the children and their families who must live with this disgusting and abhorrent attitude being purveyed through a money hungry Sports media (ESPN) on a daily basis.
ESPN has paved the way for every other Sports network to capitalize from the continuous coverage & publicity being given to this OFFENDING INSTITUTION and they are culpable as well.
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Disagree***
Sep 4, 2012, 11:46 AM
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Re: If PSU had ANY concern for the victims of their cover-up...
Sep 4, 2012, 11:49 AM
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Get off your high horse! PSU's football program didn't committ those crimes, Sandusky did and the officials who covered it up all are being punished accordingly. Is it stupid that every sports media keeps plastering PSU all over the front pages...yes, but those current players and coaches had nothing to do with those victims. All this "let's punish everyone that has anything to do with the name Penn State" crap is over-reaching and self-righteous!
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The FB program which was protected at expense of children...
Sep 4, 2012, 12:51 PM
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...should have received the 'Death Penalty' and all of this would have been a non-issue.
It is so hard for me to understand YOUR INSENSITIVITY TO THE VICTIMS of these crimes AND cover-up that spanned decades!!!
One year of putting the FB program on the shelf when the players could still play there or transfer without penalty IN NO WAY COMPARES to what it subjects the victims and their families to on a daily basis to constantly hear about the sympathy everyone shows for a stupid game when peoples lives have been egregiously and permanently scarred.
It really exposes the LACK OF MORAL VALUES of the University, Media, and the people who defend this travesty of justice.
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Re: The FB program which was protected at expense of children...
Sep 4, 2012, 2:20 PM
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That's the most ridiculous crap I've ever heard. It would be like banning theatres because it's mentally hard on the families of the victims in colorado....good grief man....PSU nation didn't commit those crimes....5 men did. Quit using this "insensitivity" as an excuse to witch hunt. No one is being insensitive. The criminls are getting their due, many other got what wasn't due to them, and many good things are being done to make awareness....
Time to move on and leave what's left of PSU alone.
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Re: The FB program which was protected at expense of children...
Sep 4, 2012, 2:48 PM
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You are arguing with a Zealot troll it is a waste of time.
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Re: The FB program which was protected at expense of children...
Sep 4, 2012, 10:01 PM
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giving a program full of coaches and players who had nothing to do with the crimes committed the "Death Penalty" would make everything a non-issue? yet later you say one year of the football program on the shelf in no way compares to what it subjects the victims and their families to on a daily basis to constantly hear about the sympathy everyone shows for stupid game? are you kidding me? Those lives are scarred regardless of what happens to Penn State football. No penalty on the university is going to change anything for those victims.
It's hard for you to understand my insensitivity to the victims because I'M NOT INSENSITIVE to them. What happened to them was beyond terrible but just because I hate what happened to them does not mean that I support using their pain to justify punishing people who had nothing to do with those crimes. And this football program wouldn't be the only ones affected by the "death penalty"...every non-revenue sport at Penn State is supported by the revenue from football. So by crippling the football program, you'll in turn cripple many sports programs, many more coaches, and many more athletes. Just how many innocent people do you wish to punish by "getting justice"?
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Re: If PSU had ANY concern for the victims of their cover-up...
Sep 4, 2012, 11:51 AM
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1. We should not punish tradition and loyalty....the fans, players and alum had no idea what was going on. Why punish them even more? That's ridiculous....
2. Quit demonizing people who had nothign to do with the coverup....
3. Quit stereotyping a minority of PSU's fans to be their majority....Showing support for THEIR program and school is not condoning what happened....I expect them to support their university, especially now when it is needed most after a handful of man screwed it up. I most certainly would be supporting Clemson in an effort to move past it and would hope people like you wouldn't demonize me and everyone else for soemthing we as fans, players and alum took no part in.
They got their punishment, very harsh at that, leave them alone and let them cope with it however they can.
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i wonder how you'd feel if you were sexually abused as a child
Sep 4, 2012, 1:05 PM
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...along with dozens of others over the course of many years by a leader of a FB program whose University leaders chose to protect at all costs for the sake of money, notoriety, and building a huge fan base and revenue streams from marketing & merchandising.
Then when they were discovered, without skipping a beat continued to put it in your face on a daily basis that rather than stepping out of the limelight for just even ONE YEAR to allow a healing period for you and your families, the fans, and community...they instead preferred to accept sympathy for their fabricated and disingenuous cause.
I'm sorry for people who value a game over human life, and that includes you too friend. 
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Re: i wonder how you'd feel if you were sexually abused as a child
Sep 4, 2012, 2:22 PM
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That's speculation...IMO those men were protecting their own reputation rather than PSU football....
And besides....PSU football or any football for that matter is not the culprit here....Quit trying to act like you know how those victims feel because you don't. You're just acting a self righteous blow hard.
Leave it alone....
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Re: If PSU had ANY concern for the victims of their cover-up...
Sep 4, 2012, 1:10 PM
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There is no justification for pulling for penn state. 15 years of child rape coverup = i hope you lose every game til Armageddon. I don't feel 1 bit obligated to pull for the players for sticking around, because I don't make a habit of supporting those who are ok with child rape. Every single player should have transferrwd. Kids were raped in the same spot where they're showering after practice. That should be more than enough to compel you to transfer. If not, the fact that the entire admin is corrupt should do it.
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Re: If PSU had ANY concern for the victims of their cover-up...
Sep 4, 2012, 2:24 PM
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Yeah, because they're all ok with child rape?
You are a ridiculous person. that's all I'll say.....
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Re: If PSU had ANY concern for the victims of their cover-up...
Sep 4, 2012, 6:20 PM
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I'm so sick of you liberals trying to give everything a happy ending or a silver lining, and then getting upset and defensive when everyone doesn't share your Lifetime TV outlook. Some things just suck (like PSU), and there's nothing anyone can do to change it. I don't know who appointed CUatFL to come up with a moratorium on hating a school whose admin harbored a serial rapist for 15 years, but i can assure you that my disgust has a longer shelf life than 3 months. I don't hate the players individually, but you cannot expect people to drop everything and pull for Penn State because they wore blue ribbons and prayed on Saturday. For the record, i didn't like penn state before i knew that they harbored a molester, so you'll understand why i'm not currently rummaging through my closet to track down some white and navy.
An entire segment of the population currently hates Chick Fil A based on the beliefs of one (1) member of the organization. At PSU, pretty much EVERYONE that had any power willfully ignored the atrocities comitted by monster Sandusky, yet CUatFL, liberals, and ESPN want us to pick PSU up off the ground, pat them on the back, and tell them everything's gunna be alright. You'd almost think they were the ones who got raped.
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One of my best friends and a CU grad got his Masters from
Sep 4, 2012, 2:30 PM
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PSU and totally drank the Kool Aid in Happy Valley. He is in complete denial. According to him, Paterno didn't know anything, there was no cover up conspiracy, the '98 incident never happened because the campus police report found nothing, and the incident McCreary witnessed was just horse play like Sandusky said. He believes Sandusky is guilty, but he never did anything on campus and no one knew what he was doing. You can't even have a rational conversation with him. He thinks the Freeh report is garbage and doesn't prove anything. Actually, he thinks it exonerates Paterno and PSU.
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