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Maybe someone can answer this for me I hope. Was s.carolina
Apr 28, 2012, 1:58 PM
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considered to be a "repeat offendor" by the NCAA or not? I'm assuming that they (the NCAA) must have contorted their way out of classifying them as that based on the feather they brushed across S.Carolina's wrist yesterday. If you were considered a repeat offendor, how could you possibly get such light sanctions? What would be the point in the designation?
Sorry for the wordiness, just hope someone can answer the question. Thanks in advance!
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Have no idea
Apr 28, 2012, 2:03 PM
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I am suit is addressed in the report somewhere. The NCAA was pretty clear in their feelings on the level of cooperation and work that w did to meet their expectations.
Sometime in the next f weeks I'll read the report. For those that are begging to know that answer right now, it would probably be worth their time to read the report now instead of relying on message board posters for an answer that probably is a guess at best.
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CU Medallion [53933]
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Partner, how nice you were after the fact that you broke
Apr 28, 2012, 9:46 PM
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major rules, while on probation for previously breaking major rules should have no merit on the consequences of those facts. I am not certain, but I doubt if a convicted thief, on early release and on parole, broke into a home and stole 57,000 in jewelry would be given a "Thank you so much" once he was apprehended and he told them where the loot was and quickly took them to it. Oh, and on top of that, they, the police would allow him to only return 18,500 ( that the thief graciously offered up on his lonesome) of the 57,000 in stolen merchandise. ** Yep, it happens everyday in the real world just like that.
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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ok,since you put it that way
Apr 29, 2012, 6:21 PM
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the burglar should get three years probation,and keep his ill-gotten gains.why, he could have lied and made us work a little harder to find the whole truth.
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Recidivist, that's one bonehead name.***
Apr 28, 2012, 2:03 PM
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"But that ain't me no more"***
Apr 28, 2012, 6:15 PM
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Re: Maybe someone can answer this for me I hope. Was s.carolina
Apr 28, 2012, 2:10 PM
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you'd be better to assume it was all about the benjamins.it's the ncaa that should be investigated.
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110%er [8095]
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Great questions. I would like answers too.***
Apr 28, 2012, 2:53 PM
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Re: Maybe someone can answer this for me I hope. Was s.caro
Apr 28, 2012, 2:57 PM
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Not sure but in the past the ncaa has chose not to apply repeat offender status if a new staff has been put in place since the previous violations.
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Orange Blooded [2220]
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Re: Maybe someone can answer this for me I hope. Was s.caro
Apr 28, 2012, 3:27 PM
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which answer's why Carolina changes coaches so often! lol
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CU Medallion [53933]
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So, when is Spurrier going to be replaced? Are you kidding
Apr 28, 2012, 9:49 PM
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me? You had a previous coach who had cheated at every school he had every coached and you replaced him with a coach who cheated from the moment he was hired, up until the moment he was caught.
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Re: So, when is Spurrier going to be replaced? Are you kidding
May 3, 2012, 11:01 AM
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Oh please. SOS is known as one coach that doesn't cheat. You've been out recruited and out coached by both our baseball coach and football coach. Man up and face the truth. SOS removed 10 players in his first year at Carolina and 8 were on the two depth chart. Summers and Thompson to name a couple. He beat Florida & TN with 4 walk-ons starting on the offence.
He's built our program in he right way. Face the facts. USC is in the powerful SEC and doing well. Clemson is in the ACC and that conference is in trouble.
Spurrier has a record of running a clean program, and he's adjusted to the style of his talent which is loaded.
Look for 4 in a row this year.
Respectfully Submitted,
Davy
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I agree and I think ignoring this clause will come back to
Apr 28, 2012, 3:42 PM
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Bite the NCAA. They have just removed any threat from this rule for most big time schools with big time coaches. Just from reading between the lines, it seems that SCar rolled over quick and easy and did most of the work for the NCAA, so they gave them a pass. So, the way I see it is you cheat like crazy hoping to not get caught. Also, you get an underling to do the dirty work and pay them off to take the hit. If you do get caught, roll over and fully cooperate, while proclaiming you and your staff's innocence.
I did notice that the NCAA reduced their total scholarships to 82 for the next 2 years. I'm sure this was due to their rampant oversignnig. I think these penalties will be a minor headache to SCar the next couple of years.
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Re: I agree and I think ignoring this clause will come back to
Apr 28, 2012, 10:05 PM
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I really don't think that this is something we did. That would be giving our compliance office way too much to think they could cook up something like this.
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I did not say that you planned it this way
Apr 29, 2012, 2:35 PM
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What I am saying is that with this ruling, the type of actions that I listed have been shown to have kept a team from a stiff penalty. I do not doubt that many teams have taken notice of this ruling.
Since you brought it up, the premise you referenced is not outside the realm of possibility. I have been told that SCar 'demoted' their 'Compliance Officer', but kept her at her original salary. To my knowledge she has not been fired. Spurrier has been very vocal about this not being on his staff. SCar also hired the Compliance Officer from Ohio State that helped run off Tressel. Whether planned or not, I give Hymen props for his damage control.
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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slive took one for the team.
Apr 28, 2012, 4:04 PM
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he is a #### fan,ya know.
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Spurrier knows where the bodies are buried.***
Apr 28, 2012, 8:36 PM
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I'm pretty sure
Apr 28, 2012, 9:56 PM
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Steve Spurrier wasn't mentioned in the report from the NCAA. From reading it, it seemed as if the NCAA thought that because of the "above standard" cooperation of the University, and the fact that the self imposed penalties were worse than what they would have handed out, they were satisfied.
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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are you really that dumb, or,are you just acting like it?
Apr 29, 2012, 6:25 PM
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they did go a little (a very little) above usuc's self-proposed actions.
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Re: are you really that dumb, or,are you just acting like it?
May 3, 2012, 10:25 AM
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The only thing that people can go on is what is known.
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They were granted leniency for diminished mental capacity...***
May 3, 2012, 11:01 AM
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Thanks to our victim worshipping society today, the NCAA
May 3, 2012, 11:04 AM
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went easy on them after they argued that because Clemson had been whippin' their ##### for so long they had to cheat to have a chance.
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Re: Maybe someone can answer this for me I hope. Was s.carolina
May 3, 2012, 11:22 AM
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Let's face it. The ACC is now considered the 7th best conference in the country. Adding Syracuse and Pitt isn't going to help.
The system will hurt the ACC. I thought when the ACC added Va Tech, Miami and BC it would become a power conference. Instead, it brought the ACC to much lower standards.
Clemson, get out of the ACC and join a more powerful conference. If they will take you? The Orange bowl has moved from the cream of the crop, to a lower tier bowl with poor attendance.
Wake up and smell the coffee! And act while you can.
Davy
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