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The reason I think the Big12 situation is still quite alive
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The reason I think the Big12 situation is still quite alive


May 31, 2012, 9:10 AM

is that I cannot believe that our admin would let this thing grow like it has without some behind the scenes assurance that it would happen. "Begging for a date to the prom" and not getting it is embarrassing enough, plus putting up with conference backlash for trying to unsuccessfuly leave...

It does not add up to staying in the ACC without changes for the better. Just my opinion.

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rumblings and squirmings from the ACC side


May 31, 2012, 9:20 AM

Teel Time: Should ACC adjust bowl sharing to benefit teams such as VT, Clemson, FSU?

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-blog/dp-teel-time-acc-bowl-revenue,0,259118.story

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if there was nothing to this smoke...


May 31, 2012, 9:23 AM

the admin would have came out and commited to the acc by now.by them not doing so speaks volumes.not saying we will leave.but there is something to the rumors

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Tnet grew it


May 31, 2012, 9:53 AM

I don't see where admin grew Big XII talk. TDP said there is nothing of such between Clemson University and the Big XII. David Wilkins said we haven't received any viable option from any conference. This thing grew on this board and it was painful to watch, especially now.

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Re: Tnet grew it


May 31, 2012, 9:56 AM

Why was it painful? It is obvious that we need to get off a sinking ship. The B1g wouldn't be my first choice but it appears to be our best choice.

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Re: sinking ship


May 31, 2012, 10:21 AM

The way I see it if we take care of business and win all our games we will be in the playoff no matter what conference we are in. Tell me if I have missed something.

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Yes, you missed "something"...


May 31, 2012, 10:48 AM

tens of millions of dollars over the next few years alone. EVEN if we stay in the ACC. Time to leave the party...

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Swofford and 'company' signed away 3rd tier rights for the


May 31, 2012, 11:14 AM

next 5 years before it will be re-evaluated. I've seen several references to $4M as an approximate number for schools such as CU, FLSt, and others. That's roughly $20M ... that should cover any exit fees.

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The exit fees will be settled for a lower amount after


May 31, 2012, 11:25 AM

we threaten to sue them over not acting in the best interests of the conference in regards to adding basketball schools and crappy TV deals.

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Until you realize we agreed to it.


May 31, 2012, 11:27 AM

This is the same deal we signed a year ago, just with more years and more money.

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By "we" are you referring to the ACC or Clemson?


May 31, 2012, 11:32 AM

Either way, we will continue to fall behind in the $ game unless there are changes made....and Pitt and 'Cuse ain't it.

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BTW, TDP stated in an interview that they do not know the


May 31, 2012, 11:33 AM [ in reply to Until you realize we agreed to it. ]

specifics of TV deals until well after it is in stone.

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You realize the ACC signed a deal last year right?***


May 31, 2012, 11:35 AM



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State your point. We did not have an option last year.


May 31, 2012, 11:59 AM

We may (hopefully) have one now.

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Re: State your point. We did not have an option last year.


May 31, 2012, 12:02 PM

You said we could sue over our TV deals to reduce the buyout. How does that make any sense when we were part of creating the contract and approved of the one that we received.

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We get the details AFTER it is approved. Clemson has


May 31, 2012, 12:13 PM

no say in the negotiations, or that was what was stated.

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May 31, 2012, 10:29 AM [ in reply to Tnet grew it ]

Technically they are correct, however I'd be willing to bet Clemson's agents have spoken / are speaking to Big XII agents.

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Wilkins did not say we were committed to the ACC either


May 31, 2012, 11:48 AM [ in reply to Tnet grew it ]

Left it very open ended when he could have stopped all speculation last week.

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deal would be done now if it weren't for the $40mil buyout..


May 23, 2023, 5:34 PM

the $20m nut per school is too much to swallow alone and the Big 12 can't front the money without cutting the revenue to each school. i'm sure they were negotiating how to share the cost between the schools and Big 12 over the years, but Swofford would get his money upon exit.

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Re: The reason I think the Big12 situation is still quite alive


May 31, 2012, 12:06 PM

Devils Playground

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Grow like it has? Not one reputable or even unreputable


May 31, 2012, 12:22 PM

media source has reported that there is anything do it.

Someone posted a few years ago that we were going to let VT run down the hill after the VT shootings and Tigernet fell for it for the most part.

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