Replies: 30
| visibility 2
|
Editor [∞]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 43735
Joined: 12/12/12
|
TNET: Clemson men's basketball ranked for first time in two years
5
5
Jan 16, 2023, 12:05 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [14481]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9317
Joined: 8/30/18
|
Re: TNET: Clemson men's basketball ranked for first time in two years
Jan 16, 2023, 12:15 PM
|
|
Interesting choice of words for the headline...
|
|
|
|
|
Rock Defender [71]
TigerPulse: 64%
Posts: 532
Joined: 12/11/22
|
Re: TNET: Clemson men's basketball ranked for first time in two years
1
Jan 16, 2023, 12:34 PM
|
|
Clemson, Miami, and Virginia are the only three ranked teams. I never thought I'd see the day that ACC football was tougher than ACC basketball.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1053]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 937
Joined: 6/17/06
|
Re: TNET: Clemson men's basketball ranked for first time in two years
Jan 16, 2023, 12:35 PM
|
|
Virginia is also ranked (the highest of the 3)
|
|
|
|
|
Rock Defender [71]
TigerPulse: 64%
Posts: 532
Joined: 12/11/22
|
Re: TNET: Clemson men's basketball ranked for first time in two years
1
1
Jan 16, 2023, 12:40 PM
|
|
Changed it completely missed UVA.
|
|
|
|
|
Associate AD [828]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 751
Joined: 1/8/11
|
We did move up 7 spots!
Jan 16, 2023, 12:49 PM
|
|
That's more than any other team. Btw the Net is not based on any of the polls. It is an entity of it's own.So polls don't mean much.
|
|
|
|
|
Associate AD [828]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 751
Joined: 1/8/11
|
Re: We did move up 7 spots!
1
Jan 16, 2023, 12:52 PM
|
|
Our Net ranking is 49th. That sucks...We just have to keep winning.
|
|
|
|
|
Associate AD [828]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 751
Joined: 1/8/11
|
Sixth in Acc in Net rankings??
Jan 16, 2023, 1:00 PM
|
|
Now that I have done a little research I am even more confused. Undefeated in Acc but 6th in Net and it's through 1/15
UVA - 15th Duke -25th NC State -29th UNC- 33rd Canes - 39th Tigers-49th
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [58936]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 40093
Joined: 11/12/04
|
The coot and Loyola Chicago games are getting all the respect they deserve.
1
Jan 16, 2023, 1:04 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6145]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3375
Joined: 5/13/00
|
Re: The coot and Loyola Chicago games are getting all the respect they deserve.
Jan 16, 2023, 1:15 PM
|
|
"Quad 4 losses: the stink that keeps on stinking."
|
|
|
|
|
Varsity [240]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 285
Joined: 5/10/05
|
Re: We did move up 7 spots!
Jan 16, 2023, 1:11 PM
[ in reply to We did move up 7 spots! ] |
|
Here’s how teams in last week’s AP Top 25 (+ teams getting votes) did last week:
Top 25 1. Houston: 17-1 (1-0) 2. Kansas: 16-1 (2-0) 3. Purdue: 16-1 (1-0) 4. Alabama: 15-2 (2-0) 5. Tennessee: 14-3 (1-1) 6. UConn: 15-4 (0-2) 7. UCLA: 16-2 (2-0) 8. Gonzaga: 16-3 (2-0) 9. Arizona: 15-3 (1-1) 10. Texas: 15-2 (2-0) 11. Kansas State: 15-2 (1-1) 12. Xavier: 15-3 (2-0) 13. Virginia: 15-3 (2-0) 14. Iowa State: 13-3 (1-1) 15. Arkansas: 12-5 (0-2) 16. Miami: 14-3 (1-1) 17. TCU: 13-3 (1-1) 18. Wisconsin: 11-5 (0-2) 19. Providence: 14-4 (0-1) 20. Missouri: 13-4 (0-2) 21. Auburn: 14-3 (1-0) 22. Charleston: 16-1 (2-0) 23. San Diego State: 13-4 (0-1) 24. Duke: 13-5 (1-1) 25. Marquette: 14-5 (1-1) 26. Baylor: 12-5 (1-0) 27. Clemson: 15-3 (2-0) 28. Florida Atlantic: 16-1 (2-0) 29. Indiana: 11-6 (1-1) 30. St. Mary’s: 16-4 (2-0) 31. Michigan State: 12-5 (1-1) 32. Northwestern: 12-5 (0-2) 33. Illinois: 12-5 (2-0) 34. Mississippi: 12-5 (0-2) 35. Rutgers: 13-5 (2-0) 36. Ohio State: 10-7 (0-2) 37. Creighton: 10-8 (1-1) 38. North Carolina: 12-6 (1-1) 39. NC State: 14-4 (1-0) 40. LSU: 12-5 (0-2) 41. Pittsburgh: 12-6 (1-1) 42. New Mexico: 16-2 (2-0) 43. Nevada: 15-4 (1-1)
|
|
|
|
|
Varsity [240]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 285
Joined: 5/10/05
|
Re: We did move up 7 spots!
1
Jan 16, 2023, 1:11 PM
[ in reply to We did move up 7 spots! ] |
|
Here’s how teams in last week’s AP Top 25 (+ teams getting votes) did last week:
Top 25 1. Houston: 17-1 (1-0) 2. Kansas: 16-1 (2-0) 3. Purdue: 16-1 (1-0) 4. Alabama: 15-2 (2-0) 5. Tennessee: 14-3 (1-1) 6. UConn: 15-4 (0-2) 7. UCLA: 16-2 (2-0) 8. Gonzaga: 16-3 (2-0) 9. Arizona: 15-3 (1-1) 10. Texas: 15-2 (2-0) 11. Kansas State: 15-2 (1-1) 12. Xavier: 15-3 (2-0) 13. Virginia: 15-3 (2-0) 14. Iowa State: 13-3 (1-1) 15. Arkansas: 12-5 (0-2) 16. Miami: 14-3 (1-1) 17. TCU: 13-3 (1-1) 18. Wisconsin: 11-5 (0-2) 19. Providence: 14-4 (0-1) 20. Missouri: 13-4 (0-2) 21. Auburn: 14-3 (1-0) 22. Charleston: 16-1 (2-0) 23. San Diego State: 13-4 (0-1) 24. Duke: 13-5 (1-1) 25. Marquette: 14-5 (1-1) 26. Baylor: 12-5 (1-0) 27. Clemson: 15-3 (2-0) 28. Florida Atlantic: 16-1 (2-0) 29. Indiana: 11-6 (1-1) 30. St. Mary’s: 16-4 (2-0) 31. Michigan State: 12-5 (1-1) 32. Northwestern: 12-5 (0-2) 33. Illinois: 12-5 (2-0) 34. Mississippi: 12-5 (0-2) 35. Rutgers: 13-5 (2-0) 36. Ohio State: 10-7 (0-2) 37. Creighton: 10-8 (1-1) 38. North Carolina: 12-6 (1-1) 39. NC State: 14-4 (1-0) 40. LSU: 12-5 (0-2) 41. Pittsburgh: 12-6 (1-1) 42. New Mexico: 16-2 (2-0) 43. Nevada: 15-4 (1-1)
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1053]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 937
Joined: 6/17/06
|
2 words..No Respect***
Jan 16, 2023, 12:35 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [14481]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9317
Joined: 8/30/18
|
Re: 2 words..No Respect***
1
Jan 16, 2023, 12:38 PM
|
|
None earned, none given... a victim of our own circumstances.
What I mean by this is it is kind of like when the football team had the label of "Clemsoning." The narrative based on a lot of past history is that Clemson BB will waste away prosperity. Until we prove otherwise we won't get the respect we deserve.
Message was edited by: slwcu79®
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4730]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3387
Joined: 8/14/01
|
Re: 2 words..No Respect***
Jan 16, 2023, 1:17 PM
|
|
Evidenced by the Q4 losses and the weak schedule so far outside the ACC (and partially within it). We could not know when we scheduled some of these games that the teams would be Q4 teams, but losing to two of them hurts, a lot.
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [13090]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 22408
Joined: 4/24/04
|
We're still 52nd in KenPom as well
Jan 16, 2023, 2:31 PM
[ in reply to 2 words..No Respect*** ] |
|
The early OOC games cost us again. One thing that's been incredibly consistent during Brad's tenure is taking 2-3 bad OOC losses every year.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2698]
TigerPulse: 81%
Posts: 8380
Joined: 8/12/14
|
Re: We're still 52nd in KenPom as well
Jan 16, 2023, 2:42 PM
|
|
The early OOC games cost us again. One thing that's been incredibly consistent during Brad's tenure is taking 2-3 bad OOC losses every year.
This is not close to true.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [42580]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9851
Joined: 6/13/19
|
Two years!!!
Jan 16, 2023, 12:54 PM
|
|
Wow... I really didn't realize it had been 2 years since we were ranked in the top 25. Let's hope we can stay there now and continue to move even higher. Go Tigers!!! Beat Wake!!!
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1012]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 872
Joined: 9/9/14
|
Re: TNET: Clemson men's basketball ranked for first time in two years
Jan 16, 2023, 1:02 PM
|
|
Hopefully our team can keep building on this momentum and make this a year we will never forget.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1463]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 977
Joined: 9/5/99
|
Looks to me like CBS has us as an 8th seed***
Jan 16, 2023, 1:02 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [44304]
TigerPulse: 81%
Posts: 33131
Joined: 2/22/03
|
Our 4-1 record in Quad 1 games is huge.
1
Jan 16, 2023, 2:10 PM
|
|
I believe that more than makes up for the two Quad 4 losses, especially since they were early in the season and are clearly outliers.
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [13090]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 22408
Joined: 4/24/04
|
Maybe outliers on this year's resume, but hardly outliers
Jan 16, 2023, 2:32 PM
|
|
for Brad. We take 2-3 bad OOC losses every year.
|
|
|
|
|
Varsity [240]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 285
Joined: 5/10/05
|
Re: Our 4-1 record in Quad 1 games is huge.
1
Jan 16, 2023, 2:40 PM
[ in reply to Our 4-1 record in Quad 1 games is huge. ] |
|
There are only 3 schools ahead of Clemson that have a better winning percentage against Quad 1 teams & that’s Purdue (6-1), Kansas (6-1), & Miami (5-1). Kansas State has the same record (4-1). On the flip side, there’s only 1 school that’s lost 2 games against Quad 4 teams (Utah State at 3-2). Utah State is 34th in NET (Clemson 49th) & they’re 0-2 against Quad 1 teams, so that shows how much losing to SCAR & Loyola (Chicago) is weighing us down.
|
|
|
|
|
Varsity [240]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 285
Joined: 5/10/05
|
Re: Our 4-1 record in Quad 1 games is huge.
Jan 16, 2023, 2:53 PM
|
|
Here’s what’s left in the regular season:
@ WF (75) —> Quad 1 vs VT (58) —> Quad 2 vs GT (157) —> Quad 3 @ FSU (228) —> Quad 3 @ BC (226) —> Quad 3 vs MIA (39) —> Quad 2 @ UNC (33) —> Quad 1 vs FSU (228) —> Quad 4 @ LOU (337) —> Quad 4 vs SYR (114) —> Quad 3 @ NCST (29) —> Quad 1 @ UVA (15) —> Quad 1 vs ND (162) —> Quad 4
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17644]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 11057
Joined: 10/13/08
|
Re: Our 4-1 record in Quad 1 games is huge.
Jan 16, 2023, 4:47 PM
[ in reply to Our 4-1 record in Quad 1 games is huge. ] |
|
I don't often agree with JK but I agree on this one. Keep winning and the impact of those Q4 losses will continue to fade.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3195]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3256
Joined: 10/19/08
|
Well that did it. Jinxed us. Bet the farm on Wake.
Jan 16, 2023, 2:12 PM
|
|
Just kidding. Go Tigers!
|
|
|
|
|
Scout Team [151]
TigerPulse: 98%
Posts: 81
Joined: 12/3/98
|
Re: TNET: Clemson men's basketball ranked for first time in two years
Jan 16, 2023, 4:26 PM
|
|
The kiss of death!
|
|
|
|
|
Scout Team [151]
TigerPulse: 98%
Posts: 81
Joined: 12/3/98
|
Re: TNET: Clemson men's basketball ranked for first time in two years
Jan 16, 2023, 4:27 PM
|
|
The kiss of death!
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8730]
TigerPulse: 50%
Posts: 11697
Joined: 9/9/06
|
Re: TNET: Clemson men's basketball ranked for first time in two years
Jan 16, 2023, 4:30 PM
|
|
Look, we have not played a ranked team, lost to an 8-9 South Carolina and a bottom of their league 6-11 Loyola Chicago so I am just happy we are ranked. It gets way tougher from here but we are playing well for sure.
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17644]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 11057
Joined: 10/13/08
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4112]
TigerPulse: 96%
Posts: 5235
Joined: 10/23/10
|
That brain dead BPI algorithm …
1
Jan 16, 2023, 7:40 PM
|
|
Does not take into account WHEN a bad loss occurred. If a bad loss occurs very early in the season, it should not count much vs a late season bad loss. Early season is essentially, figuring things out time.
|
|
|
|
Replies: 30
| visibility 2
|
|
|