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Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 10:30 AM
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Nick is a Clemson man. A great guy, I had the pleasure of meeting him several times when he was an upperclassmen.
He’s a perfect fit culturally and he was a good technician. He also played (and coached) in the NFL. He was undersized but still a solid DT.
I’m really pumped about this hire. I think he’ll be a better recruiter. He’s a genuine guy, not a sensitive baby that writes poems.
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Nick Eason > Todd Bates_ YES ,and
Jan 5, 2022, 10:32 AM
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that's not a dig at Bates either. Nick is just better.
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That’s right. Nothing against Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 10:33 AM
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But we just got ourselves a nice upgrade.
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But…how are his poetry skills?***
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Jan 5, 2022, 10:34 AM
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Every coach has something they need to work on
Jan 5, 2022, 10:36 AM
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Or not …
Maybe he likes motivational cat posters. That would kill with 18 year old kids.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 10:39 AM
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If he was undersized as a successful Dlineman in the NFL, he MUST know great technique. No way around it. I’m liking what I’m hearing.
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Exactly
Jan 5, 2022, 10:44 AM
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He didn’t have a superstar career but this guy knows the position and what it takes to be successful.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates: N.E. started as DE moved to DT
Jan 5, 2022, 10:53 AM
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Any of you guys remember that Nick Eason started out at Clemson as a D-End, but was moved to D-Tackle (not N.Eason's preference) and performed beautifully (and without coming out of the game often) in the D-Tackle role.
Not a huge guy, but quick and especially effort effort effort. From what I remember, he was also a fine student (which admittedly his smarts helped him to be a fine student).
As a coach pushing effort from his players, Nick Eason had LIVED IT and isn't just BS'ing about it.
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Graduated in 2 1/2 years, the first player to do so
Jan 5, 2022, 6:06 PM
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and later got his Masters
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 10:55 AM
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I’ve been underwhelmed by Bates recruiting. I’m pumped about this hire. New blood is good
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 10:56 AM
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I’ve been underwhelmed by Bates recruiting. I’m pumped about this hire. New blood is good
same
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 10:58 AM
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Based on what though? And no being a "Clemson Guy" is not qualifications of being a good coach and recruiter.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 11:01 AM
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Bates was fine early, but falling off on his recruiting more recently. I think Eason's time in the NFL as a coach and love for Clemson will resonate with recruits. More so than Todd's story.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 11:05 AM
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It hasn't thus far. He's 35th recruiter in the SEC. His last dline in the NFL was dead last sacks. Auburn finished 40th. I'm failing to see how it is an upgrade.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 11:12 AM
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You do realize he has only been at Auburn 1 year. Hardly a way you can judge his recruiting results yet. He is recruiting leader on many DL prospects for Auburn this year so I think he is an excellent choice. At least he has ties to many of the 2023 prospects we are desperate to sign. Will be an excellent opportunity for Clemson to regain momentum on the recruiting trail.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 11:21 AM
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It's not really. You know people on tiger net are wishy-washy. They are all over it just because he is a former Clemson tiger. Seemed like everybody loved Todd Bates before he went to Oklahoma, Now they all hate him. And to say Todd Bates recruiting has dropped off lately is just the most insane thing I have ever heard. Where did all the great guys we currently have and have had the past several seasons come from?They weren't recruited by Santa Claus.Time will tell.Dabo will make a feel good hire to appease the masses and spin it good.More snake oil please Dabo.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 1:45 PM
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It's not really. You know people on tiger net are wishy-washy. They are all over it just because he is a former Clemson tiger. Seemed like everybody loved Todd Bates before he went to Oklahoma, Now they all hate him. And to say Todd Bates recruiting has dropped off lately is just the most insane thing I have ever heard. Where did all the great guys we currently have and have had the past several seasons come from?They weren't recruited by Santa Claus.Time will tell.Dabo will make a feel good hire to appease the masses and spin it good.More snake oil please Dabo.
The Travis Shaw result seems to counter your claims of insanity. Eason WANTING to be at Clemson is more important to me than the fact he played at Clemson. and what I think is even more important still is Nick's time coaching in the NFL.
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I mean, I gave the reasons why
Jan 5, 2022, 12:05 PM
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He was undersized
Still played in the league
Has coaching experience in the league. One of the best resumes on our young staff…
He’s a fit culturally. Yes. Important to Clemson, not important to me.
I’m sure he has a humble gratitude of how far Dabo has brought the program since he left.
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Nothing wrong with writing poetry?
Jan 5, 2022, 10:59 AM
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"There was an old man from Nantucket..."
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I had a class with him and we were assigned to do a group
Jan 5, 2022, 11:08 AM
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project. He was easy to talk to, very nice and humble, and a hard worker,
Ps I think he also won a super bowl.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 11:13 AM
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Upgrade or not we want guys who want to be at clemson. Bates obviously doesn’t want to be here anymore so good riddance. Welcome Nick! So glad to have you back. Put your nfl and clemson experience to good use.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 11:24 AM
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I wonder if a guy like Travis Shaw will look at a 6-7 tarhole team and look at Nick Eason and think about using the portal sooner rather than later.
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Whether it's true or not,
Jan 5, 2022, 11:45 AM
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Shaw said Bates dropped the ball in his recruitment.
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Said last night....
Jan 5, 2022, 11:25 AM
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I had a feeling we would make an upgrade here..... ; )
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 1:01 PM
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Looks like Bates only landed 1 DL recruit in the last 2 cycles. Idk if that was by design, but i don't imagine it was.
Eason in his first and only year recruiting landed 2 4* and has 2 4* transfers coming. One from Oregon and a JuCo kid. Good for him getting his first recruiting class going.
In other news this '22 5* DL Peter Woods kid seems to be tweeting a lot about OU, Bates, and BV past day. Clemson was in the top 7. OU was not.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 1:14 PM
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I think Bates was a great DT coach and the players all improved. No drop off after Brooks left. But I think Eason will do better for us. Played in the NFL and being a Clemson guy will help a lot. Remember most coaches recruit areas not position. Seems he really wants to be at Clemson and that is something kids will be drawn to. Plus I believe he will be able to coach up the players. I think it is a Great hire. So far I really like all the hires/changes. Still worried a little about Grisham but if Dabo has him there I am sure he will do good.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 2:39 PM
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I hope you are right. I do feel that Bates
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 2:42 PM
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Something wrong with website, my point is Bates clearly < Brooks.
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Re: Nick Eason > Todd Bates
Jan 5, 2022, 2:47 PM
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Talk about an UPGRADE!! WOW!!
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