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YOUR BALANCE
We outgained FSU 429 to 311 yds, 25 to 16 first downs,
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We outgained FSU 429 to 311 yds, 25 to 16 first downs,

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Sep 23, 2023, 4:46 PM

34:36 to 25:24 time of possesion, yards per pass were even (7.4 to 7.8) and we had 3.6 to their 1.1 yds per rush. The talent they acquired from the portal made them better than they were last year, but it did NOT make them better or more talented than we are this year. We had plenty enough talent to beat them this year, and we played like it most of the game, so let's squash that stupidity by those parroting the same nonsense over and over.

We lost this game due to questionable playcalling and coaching decisions at critical times.

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Seems to be a pattern.***

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Sep 23, 2023, 4:47 PM



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Re: Seems to be a pattern.***

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Sep 23, 2023, 4:53 PM

hmm.. which narrative will you pick? Was it the coaching of the unaffiliated, top gun, splash hire OC or the nepotisticly hired, inexperienced DC?

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Re: Seems to be a pattern.***


Sep 23, 2023, 5:04 PM

Running what amounted to be prevent defense before the half was dumb as hell.

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Re: Seems to be a pattern.***


Sep 23, 2023, 5:07 PM

Should we go back and count how many times Venables went to prevent? It isn’t new.

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Re: We outgained FSU 429 to 311 yds, 25 to 16 first downs,

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Sep 23, 2023, 4:48 PM

I agree with you. I don’t care that much about the portal, but I do care that week after week our coaches get in the way of this team winning and excelling, including Dabo

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Portal nonuse is not the reason we are spiralling downward.

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Sep 23, 2023, 4:49 PM

It's just one of them (and there are lots of reasons).

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Re: Portal nonuse is not the reason we are spiralling downward.

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Sep 23, 2023, 5:02 PM

No it's not.

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I thought their offensive talent was superior to ours,

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Sep 23, 2023, 4:49 PM

especially with our best receiver out and our 2nd best dinged up early.

Our coaches put us in position to win, but we just made a few mistakes.

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Overall, I don't think there's a nickel's worth of

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Sep 23, 2023, 4:56 PM

diffrence between the talent on the two teams. FSU didn't out-talent us today, or even out-play us.

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They did make throws and catches that we cant


Sep 23, 2023, 5:00 PM

Saw it several times.

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They certainly didn't outplay us, but they are further along

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Sep 23, 2023, 5:03 PM [ in reply to Overall, I don't think there's a nickel's worth of ]

at QB and receiver than we are currently. We return just about everybody on offense. They have a couple of talented wide receivers and we were missing our best and Brown was banged up. They had better offensive players today, but our coaches and performance put us in position to win the game. The missed block by Mafah and the scoop and score was the difference in the game. Easy yards and points when our defense had outplayed them.

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They had that Tee Higgins/Mike Williams/Sammy Watkins


Sep 23, 2023, 5:31 PM

WR that we don't have, for sure, and yes, Williams being out and Brown banged up hurt us. But the missed chip shot FG was a killer as well, and very well could have won the game for us had he made it. The 3-man front in the 1st half cost us, as did a few key offensive play calls. And the missed block by Mafah.

All of that made a differnce. Ultimately, we had all we needed to win without using the portal.

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Our game plans were terrific

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Sep 23, 2023, 4:59 PM [ in reply to I thought their offensive talent was superior to ours, ]

on both sides of the ball. That fumble recovered for a TD was a killer. And that wasn’t on Cade or the OL.

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That was the play of the game that gave them easy yards

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Sep 23, 2023, 5:04 PM

and points when we were outplaying them. The coaches had Mafah there to make the block, he just made a mistake.

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Re: Our game plans were terrific

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Sep 23, 2023, 5:07 PM [ in reply to Our game plans were terrific ]

Yep, that AND still we had the chance to win it in regulation with a FG. Clemson beat Clemson. I’m not happy about losing, but our teams played well with I h is good for the future.

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Re: I thought their offensive talent was superior to ours,

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Sep 23, 2023, 5:03 PM [ in reply to I thought their offensive talent was superior to ours, ]

Yeah the really showed with that stellar 311 yards of total offense and zero points in the second half.

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Our defense played great.


Sep 23, 2023, 5:07 PM

Even though their offensive talent was superior to ours. Which is what I thought going into the game. I figured our defense was better than people were saying and our linebackers could contain their QB and swing passes.

Our offense played great short handed because Cade was great, oline was great, play calls and scheme were great, we just turned the ball over for an easy TD and that was the difference.

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Re: We outgained FSU 429 to 311 yds, 25 to 16 first downs,


Sep 23, 2023, 4:50 PM

Only 7 pts scored the second half terrible! FS won that game in the 2nd half\OT resulting in 17 pts to Clemson’s 7

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Re: We outgained FSU 429 to 311 yds, 25 to 16 first downs,


Sep 23, 2023, 4:54 PM

Agreed. The players did their job today.

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Dabo said after Duke


Sep 23, 2023, 5:02 PM

He’d take 400+ yards every game.

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Re: We outgained FSU 429 to 311 yds, 25 to 16 first downs,

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Sep 23, 2023, 5:05 PM

I think the biggest difference in these 2 offenses was a highly experienced qb vs a very talented young qb that's still learning. Cade made some mistakes for sure, but he also made some incredible throws today. At times our receivers made some great catches also. Defensively we're much more talented on the field (db's equil) but our DC looks to me like he's still learning on the job & that can't happen.

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Don't matter none. Dabo and coaches making $millions.***


Sep 23, 2023, 5:06 PM



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"Don't matter none?"


Sep 23, 2023, 5:17 PM

This is what happens when cousins fornicate.

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College Football has changed


Sep 23, 2023, 5:06 PM

If you research those TL16 teams, it was frequent for Clemson to lose the time of possessions and 1st down counts, and win the games by 3 or 4 TD's.

It's like MLB with HR's. It's the explosive plays and players that change the game. The time of possession mattered today more for keeping the ball out of FSU's hands than for Tigers scoring points. Tiger coaches can be counted on to make the conservative play calls, and opposing coaches will let Dabo have the short plays.

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Re: We outgained FSU 429 to 311 yds, 25 to 16 first downs,


Sep 23, 2023, 5:08 PM

Its pretty obvious Dabo is hoping to hold on until his last graduates.. that way he can get all his goofball friends and former players paid before they ride off into the sunset.

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We ran 79 plays


Sep 23, 2023, 5:23 PM

To their 57 as well.

It's another game like Duke and tenn you just say #### we have to win those games

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