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Football Update: Dabo's latest big dream: National title at Clemson
Sep 19, 2012, 8:22 PM
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Update:
Sep 19, 2012, 8:24 PM
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All Clemson fans want Dabo to win a National Championship at Clemson too!!
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Re: Update:
Sep 19, 2012, 8:30 PM
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I believe that at least 96/97% of Clemson fans that hated the idea of Dabo getting the HC job at Clemson back then. They are glad he has worked out so far, and they are loving him also....
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Don't know if I like being a 3-4%er. Doesn't sound right.***
Sep 20, 2012, 1:27 AM
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We could just call you a crappy fan.
Sep 20, 2012, 10:05 AM
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How does that one roll off the tongue?
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Perhaps I assumed too much.
Sep 20, 2012, 10:12 AM
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From your post I assumed you were a Dabo dumper. If this is not the case then please disregard and apply to LowCountry.
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RE-read the original post and do the math.***
Sep 20, 2012, 10:16 AM
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Actually that is why I was confused.
Sep 20, 2012, 10:23 AM
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The og post stated that 96-97% of fans who did NOT like the Dabo hire now like it. That would leave 3-4% who still do not (ie. LowCountry). I apologize for the misunderstanding. We are totally cool.
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That is what caused me realize that I must have...
Sep 20, 2012, 10:24 AM
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misunderstood the intent of your post. Once again please accept my deepest apologies.
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I'M ALL IN DABO! LET'S GO WIN MULTIPLE TITLES! GO TIGERS!***
Sep 19, 2012, 8:25 PM
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You and me both, buddy!***
Sep 19, 2012, 8:26 PM
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To be honest...
Sep 19, 2012, 8:26 PM
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winning the NC should be the goal every year.
Everyyyy year.
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Re: To be honest...
Sep 19, 2012, 9:10 PM
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Unless you're a program like Alabama, there are going to have to be rebuilding years. I think a title run every four years sounds reasonable. Wanting a legitimate run at a BCS Bowl every year sounds more like a good goal.
If the Tigers can beat Florida State this weekend, I honestly think a title run this year is very realistic. Wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.
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No 'roids here. That's a Scottie Cochran thing.***
Sep 20, 2012, 2:42 AM
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I'm right there with you, Dabo!***
Sep 19, 2012, 8:41 PM
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Re: Football Update: Dabo's latest big dream: National title at Clemson
Sep 19, 2012, 8:48 PM
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I really admire the MAN. Winning is great. Winning RIGHT is even greater. WIN, DABO, WIN!
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Proud to have a man of Dabo's character leading the Tigers***
Sep 19, 2012, 9:06 PM
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Bring it Home Dabo!***
Sep 19, 2012, 9:06 PM
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Y'all, we hit the coaching lottery when we got Dabo. I swear
Sep 19, 2012, 9:08 PM
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I've had this feeling since he got the nod as Interim Head Coach that there was something brewing in Tiger Town & something awfully special about him and the way he became our Head Coach.
Some stories he's told about why he believes this was supposed to happen: 1. He's from Pelham, AL. The first sign he saw as he left GSP when he came to interview at Clemson for WR Coach was a sign for Pelham Road.
2. The first day he pulled into his "Head Coach" reserved parking spot, the day after being named interim head coach, and parking in Tommy Bowden's former parking spot, his headlights hit the curb, and it was reserved spot 81. His college jersey #.
3. When Dabo was about 10 years old he was at a birthday party (for his mom, I think) and Frank Howard - also from Alabama - happened to be there. He rubbed Dabo's head and said something like "Maybe you'll be the head coach at Clemson one day"
JUST TOO WEIRD if you ask me!!!! It was meant to be!
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To cite Dennis Yost and The Classics 4......
Sep 19, 2012, 9:10 PM
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"Spooky"
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dangit Harcombe***
Sep 19, 2012, 9:14 PM
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Keep drinking that kool aid. He has shown zero ability to be
Sep 19, 2012, 9:19 PM
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a great coach. Great coaches do far more than Dabo has done in less time.
To win a national championship we are going to have to be able to beat Bama or LSU. We have the talent, but our coaching and player development are not even close. Before we can even think about national titles we need to ...
1. Beat USC consistently 2. Win bowl games consistently 3. Win games against teams that finish the year in the top 20 4. Stop getting blown out by mediocre and inferior teams 5. Learn how to beat GT 6. Start being consistent week in and week out, not wildly unpredictable 7. Develop a dominant defense 8. Get a whole LOT tougher 9. Develop a solid OL
Until we do those thinks, we are a good team, but not truly solid and nowhere close to great.
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Re: Keep drinking that kool aid. He has shown zero ability to be
Sep 19, 2012, 9:23 PM
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dude you can just win all of the games in 1 year and win a national championship..hint
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Which requires doing a lot of things Dabo fails @ repeatedly***
Sep 19, 2012, 11:53 PM
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Re: Keep drinking that kool aid. He has shown zero ability to be
Sep 19, 2012, 9:25 PM
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This is only Dabo's fourth full season, correct? In his third year he put up a better season than any of Tommy Bowden's ten.
I think we'll know a lot more after this season. If he can put up 10 wins this year, I think we're on the right track.
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10 wins with our talent and easy schedule is not impressive
Sep 19, 2012, 11:55 PM
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he can go 1o-3 and not accomplish a single important goal. Wins are weak unless you win the big games.
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Re: Keep drinking that kool aid. He has shown zero ability to be
Sep 19, 2012, 9:33 PM
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I generally agree with your list but I would make a couple of key points:
Re "great coaches do more than Dabo has done in less time" - how about some great coaches do more more quickly. That's a nice platitude, but doesn't realy wash in the real world.
Some pretty bad coaches experience a lot of success early on but have trouble sustaining it - examples: Charlie Weis, Chuck Amato Gene Chizik, Ken Hatfield and countless others.
Also, some truly great coaches have taken a long time to build their programs to respectability, much less greatness - examples: Frank Beamer, Nick Saban (at MSU), Bobby Bowden, and even Frank Howard. Sometimes it takes time - lots of it - to build a great team and a great program.
Re: point 6 - building a predictably good team is the most difficult task for a college coach. Even Alabama and LSU - not to mention USC, Oregon, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State, as great as they have been recently, can be wildly unpredictable. Each of them have had head-scratching losses in recent memory.
I agree there is room for improvement across the board, including with our HC. But if you want a program that is built for the long haul, then you should at least be willing to accept that slow, methodical progress is still progress, and I believe we're making progress.
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Re: Keep drinking that kool aid. He has shown zero ability to be
Sep 19, 2012, 10:36 PM
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I totally agree; as long as you can recruit from the inside out. It's won or lost on the line of scrimmage. And, as Nick Saban said, most games are won or lost in the off season(i.e. weight room), and that's where, in my humble opinion) we fall way short. Oh god, here come the thought police. Our players don't gain the size and strength they need to rule the line of scrimmage. Who is accountable?
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Wow. Where to start ..........
Sep 20, 2012, 12:15 AM
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Charlie Weis was not very successful. Willingham needed more time and set the able or Weiss' 1st 2 years.
Chuck Amato only had one solid year. Not sure why you think he was a success.
Gene Chizik won a NC in year 2. Way too early to discount him, he is just getting started.
Ken Hatfield was successful pretty much everywhere he coached except Clemson and his early success was because Ford left a great program for him.
"some truly great coaches have taken a long time to build their programs to respectability"
Wrong, that is very rare.
Beamer is the only one and he had very little to work with when he started. Dooley had a few good years, but VT was not a serious program by any streth when he got there. Few programs would ever give a coach that long.
Nick Saban was only at MSU 5 years.
Bobby Bowden won immediately at FSU. 10-2 his 2nd season.
Frank Howard never built much of a program. He had a slid year every now and then, but he was not a great coach. He is a legend, but not for success on the field.
We sucked for decades, yet Charlie Pell went 11-1 his 2nd year. For won the NC his 3rd year.
Yes, it might take a while to build a consistent program, but the great coaches show significant improvement with the talent they inherited within 2 or 3 yeas.
We are better under Dabo, but that is because he took over a program TB rebuilt, but he was under achieving. Dabo has grossly under achieved as well and while we are better, we are not significantly better.
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Did you read the full story??
Sep 20, 2012, 8:40 AM
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It was pretty obvious he has changed and is continuing to change the culture at Clemson. Wins and losses at this point show that Clemson's football program is improving, but it is not even close to being indicative of what it WILL be.
Your negativity is really a loser's mentality. I'm not saying that just to hurl insults, but to make the point that attitude and drive really determine success when it is all said and done. It would be hard to find a success story that didn't start there. Negativity and cynicism turn into failure stories at a very high rate.
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Yawn. He has already beat GT in DV. He will beat them again
Sep 19, 2012, 10:01 PM
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this year. Old Caldwell is getting the solid OL together.
The funny thing is even if he does all this -- you'll come up with another checklist. LOL.
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Not when it counts he hasn't and I have repeatedly put in
Sep 19, 2012, 11:51 PM
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writing what Dabo has to do to win me over, but you pumpers are like Obama. You make promises and guarantees, but never give specifics when asked direct questions.
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Nobody gives a SH#T about winning you over. Grow up.***
Sep 20, 2012, 1:33 AM
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Re: Keep drinking that kool aid. He has shown zero ability to be
Sep 19, 2012, 10:25 PM
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Great post. Realistic. I'm full of hope re: the FSU game, but, based on last year, we didn't come out smoking after adversity. My heart: we pull off the upset. My head: they beat us big time. Hope the hell I'm wrong. I love Dabo, but doubt his ability to realistically assess player/team ability.
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Re: Y'all, we hit the coaching lottery when we got Dabo. I swear
Sep 21, 2012, 12:48 AM
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Did you notice his apartment number was Unit 81 also. Could have been another coincidence, or he chose his jersey number because of that.. don't know. I have a 3 digit number series that keeps recurring in my life..addresses, dorm room#'s, driver's license, phone numbers (that I didn't choose), license plates.. It's just a reminder to me, there's a bigger plan happening around you. I think it's a little humorous, too! Thanks for your post! GO TIGERS!!!
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IF YOU WANT THAT DONKEY TO RUN YOU GOTTA KICK
Sep 19, 2012, 9:12 PM
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SOME A$$!
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The BEST man for the job at Clemson
Sep 19, 2012, 9:36 PM
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All in Coach!
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Re: Football Update: Dabo's latest big dream: National title at Clemson
Sep 19, 2012, 11:47 PM
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GO TIGERS!!! I know these take time, but I'll enjoy all the ACC championships on the way. We are on the path and it started with Dabo!
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Wish there would have been more credit for his attitude
Sep 20, 2012, 8:53 AM
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and success given to God. I know Dabo is very vocal about the blessings and opportunities that he has had even in his hard times being from God - heard it myself.
Regardless, it is a good article that shows the true character of the man leading our football program.
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Now we're talking!
Sep 20, 2012, 9:50 AM
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I think this is exactly what Clemson fans have been waiting for a head coach to say since the end of the 80's. The fans want it. This is why Clemson fans get so down when we lose a game. Because every Clemson fan has the highest of expectations for the season. There is only one goal in the back of everyone's mind. Not to beat south carolina, not to win the ACC....but to become National Champions again. We can taste it b/c we've tasted it before. And every year seems to be one step closer. Finally glad the head coach has the same ultimate desire stirring around in that noggin of his!
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Re: Dabo's latest big dream: National title at Clemson
Sep 20, 2012, 11:45 PM
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Great article...knew much of it, but always uplifting to read it again! GO TIGERS!!!
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