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Question about ACC access to 4-team playoff:
Jun 18, 2012, 10:34 AM
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First of all let me make a statement. I do think it is better for the ACC if the playoff is conference champions only and even better if it is an 8-team playoff which is how this thing should start.
But assuming, the "worst happens" and the powers that be decide it is a 4-team playoff based on 4 best teams, period. Here is the question. Isn't the ACC still better off than it was prior to this playoff? I mean for the last dozen years we had to finish in the top two to make the championship game. FSU did it a couple of times, VT, as Big East did it once. Isn't having to make the top4 easier than making the top-2? Wouldn't the conference have better access than it has had the last dozen years?
Don't get me wrong, I still want a champions only playoff to guarantee a spot, but if it is top-4 teams that seems like better access than what we or any conference has had.
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Re: Question about ACC access to 4-team playoff:
Jun 18, 2012, 10:36 AM
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better is only relative. Better than what exactly? Better than 2 teams? Sure. But being in a conference that demands an undefeated season to make it into that 4 team playoff is not very attractive.
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True. But yes it would be better than it was. And everyone
Jun 18, 2012, 10:41 AM
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has been talking like things would suddenly be worse when they would actually be better, as you say, relative to what we had.
I'm with you though, you don't want to be considered a non-major conference, which I don't think will happen. Also I am with most here in that we need a conf. champion entry for an 8-team playoff. 8-teams, 5 automatic conf champs with ACC, Pac12, Big12, SEC, Big10 and three at large. It is just too logical for them to do though.
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for us to be left out of a 4-team playoff, consisting of the
Jun 18, 2012, 10:45 AM
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highest rated conference champs, wouldn't the PAC 12, BIG 12, BIG 10 and SEC all have to have undefeated conference champs? when was the last time that happened?
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Re: True. But yes it would be better than it was. And everyone
Jun 18, 2012, 11:00 AM
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I don't like conf champs scenario unless it requires those conf. champs to be top 6 (which still puts the ACC a t a disadvantage due to SOS, bias etc.)
winning a conf shouldn't be the determinign factor alone. What if the coots had one of those baseball horseshoes in 2010 and beat Auburn in the SEC champ game? They would have no business in a 4 team playoff.
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I get what you're saying... but the problem with that is
Jun 18, 2012, 10:57 AM
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If it's 4 best teams, there will be an RPI factor. Most years, an undefeated ACC team will have a lower RPI than a one loss SEC
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Re: I get what you're saying... but the problem with that is
Jun 18, 2012, 11:00 AM
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or one loss Big12, B1G or Pac12 for that matter...
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I would really like to see the polls taken completely out of
Jun 18, 2012, 1:30 PM
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the playoff selection. Polls are fine to rank teams as the season goes just for interest, but they should have nothing to do with teams making a playoff. There is too much bias. I would rather see a selection committee or champs only, but no polls in the selection process.
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What if the four teams are the champs...
Jun 18, 2012, 11:14 AM
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of the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, and PAC 12, all newly revamped of course? Where does that leave the ACC?
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Re: Question about ACC access to 4-team playoff:
Jun 18, 2012, 11:14 AM
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I think the Big 12 vs ACC argument more comes down to how the revenue numbers come out. If the difference is 3 million or less, then the ACC is where we should stay.
If its more than 3 million.. you have to consider the challenges of staying competitive with other conferences getting less money.
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