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I love how Cuse thinks lack of AC is going to be a factor
Oct 2, 2013, 12:24 PM
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Newsflash New Yorkers: We practice in 95 degree heat on a regular basis. I doubt it will get that hot in your little dome. Also, we regularly play in stadiums with 80,000+ fans, so I don't really think your 50,000 will be as intimidating as you think....
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Add to that our indoor practice facility has no air cond.
Oct 2, 2013, 12:27 PM
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Noise will not be a factor. In fact, I think the players love the noise vs. playing at Duke like it is a intramural game.
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But you have to admit.................
Oct 2, 2013, 12:33 PM
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if they do jingle keys, it could get about as annoying as those #### cow bells. However, once again, we're conditioned for anything, because if we can survive an ENTIRE game of that ####### Seminole war chant, you can handle ANYTHING......ANYTHING!!
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Re: But you have to admit.....our guys should be prepared
Oct 2, 2013, 12:38 PM
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that if they jingle keys it is just the fans. Garcia is not in the area and all paint jobs are safe
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You wouldn't be the first team from the South to cramp up,,,
Oct 2, 2013, 7:16 PM
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in the Carrier Dome. Will it happen? Not if you jump out to an early lead and shut us down on offense, but and a big but, if its close into the 4th quarter, and it warm enough it could cause problems, enough to cause a loss, not always.
"On Sept. 5, in the opening game of its 1998 football season, the University of Tennessee played Syracuse University in the oven-like conditions of the Syracuse Carrier Dome. Eleven Tennessee players suffered muscle cramps during that game. Four were given fluids intravenously at halftime to ease the cramping.Despite this unforeseeable obstacle, Tennessee was able to eke out a 35-33 victory, and went on to win the NCAA championship with a perfect 13-0 record. Yet, this epidemic of muscle cramps could easily have cost Tennessee the game, and ultimately its national title."
Tennessee, Auburn, Florida State and Miami just to name a few teams from the south that have had problems in the dome. Its a different kind of heat and humidity that can lead to dehydration. Syracuse has never had problems going down south and playing in the heat but many teams have come into the Carrier Dome and had problems even though they regularly play/practice in the heat of the south.
Not saying it will matter, it will if the game is close going into the 4th quarter, but that remains to be seen if we can hang with you guys, but make no mistake its different in the Carrier Dome, not exactly sure why, but a combination of a smaller stadium, the roof....it can cause problems for even the best conditioned teams.
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Haven't seen a CU Tiger cramp yet however,....
Oct 2, 2013, 7:30 PM
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We've certainly CAUSED a lot of cramps. I'm sure LSU and UGA can confirm that if you ask them nicely.
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Arrogant? I'm responding to statements that state the heat.
Oct 2, 2013, 8:34 PM
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won't be an issue in the Carrier Dome. I've stated that it may not if Clemson comes out and jumps out to a lead and shuts down SU. But if the game is close in the 4th quarter could cause some problems, its not arrogant, it's a fact. And by the way I've said it may not even matter but like I said, many teams that don't have any issues playing in the heat of the south outdoors have had issues in the Carrier Dome.
For a team that's been decent over the last 20 years or so, but not great the arrogance is coming from some of you. Most on both sides realize where both teams are today. You guys are really good this year, while we are trying to get to the point where we are a consistant bowl team. No arrogance here, just pointing out that there have been many teams that didn't think they would have a problem with the heat in the dome and did.
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Re: Arrogant? I'm responding to statements that state the heat.
Oct 2, 2013, 8:39 PM
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The chance it becomes a game ending factor is fairly slim to nonet, so I wouldn't bet on seeing it happen:
http:/www.thestate.com/2013/10/01/3014664/clemson-football-preparing-for.html
^ might want to read that...
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Re: Arrogant? I'm responding to statements that state the heat.
Oct 2, 2013, 8:44 PM
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also, LKN Tiger below says the other part...one thing you should look at and take from our games is our depth....look at those games and see how many big plays/touchdowns came from our second and even third depths (i.e. Zack Brooks instead of Rod McDowell, Mike Williams instead of Martavis Bryant, Stanton Seckinger instead of Sam Cooper, Germone Hopper instead of Adam Humphries (in for an injured player)...we have depth, so we'll be rotating guys throughout the game, which will combat dehydration issues.
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Re: Arrogant? I'm responding to statements that state the heat.
Oct 2, 2013, 9:01 PM
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That's my fear that the game will get out of hand with your talent, we certainly aren't banking on the cramping being an issue, and even if it was depending on the score it may not matter anyways. We need to count on playing real good football just to stay in the game I'm afraid. But our hope is that we are trending up and will be able to be a competitive member of the ACC and represent well OOC.
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Meh
Oct 2, 2013, 7:46 PM
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We also practice in an indoor practice facility-In SC. I can promise you, it will not be a factor.
You hang on to that hope. If it WERE a factor, which it WON"T be, WE TOO DEEP. We will play 8 on the OL, 8 on the DL, 3 RB's, about 8 WR's, 3 corners, 3-4 safeties, 6 LB's. Easily over 40 players and not miss a beat doing so.
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Of course they do, but there are steps they take to minimize
Oct 2, 2013, 8:56 PM
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the effects since they are used to it, other teams take some of these steps also that they wouldn't otherwise. And again its only a handful of weeks earlier in the season. When it cold and snowing in November it nice to sit and watch a game in a t-shirt inside instead of freezing outdoors.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2003-09-16/sports/0309160295_1_ucf-cramping-carrier-dome
I'm not saying anything about the cramping to flame or anything, its just that its a strange thing about the dome that many teams don't realize till they have gone through it. And again even if they do feel some effects, you guys are pretty deep this year and more importantly pretty good. Some of the statements seem to indicate that because you play in the south or practice in an indoor facility it simulates the conditions of the Carrier Dome. It a unique situation but certainly not something that many teams have come into the Dome and been able to overcome. We are hoping we are competitive Saturday and give a good showing.
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Re: Of course they do, but there are steps they take to minimize
Oct 2, 2013, 9:03 PM
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unique, yes, able to be somewhat simulated in a non-air conditioned indoor full field practice facility they can close completely, no...that's one advantage Clemson has that some ofthose teams you named don't have (or may not have thought about it). But since this week has been focused on practice simulating the effects, I wouldn't be betting that you'll see it as much as the Cuse fanbase or team thinks they will. Just being honest...I can see why it could be a factor for teams, no doubt, but I'm quite doubtful it will with a team that has announced it is aware and preparing for it.
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Don't forget the humidity.***
Oct 2, 2013, 7:45 PM
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Re: I love how Cuse thinks lack of AC is going to be a factor
Oct 2, 2013, 8:49 PM
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Or those F-ing Georgia tubas!!!!
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Re: I love how Cuse thinks lack of AC is going to be a factor
Oct 2, 2013, 8:59 PM
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Out of curiosity which Southern teams haven't fared well at the dome besides the mighty demon deacons?
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Tennessee, Auburn, Florida State, Florida, Miami, UCF....
Oct 2, 2013, 9:13 PM
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now that means cramping not necessarily losing, but the Tenn and FSU games came down to the last play, we beat #6 Florida 38-21, Auburn and Miami. Miami had some problems multiple years especially in the 16-10 game when #1 Miami held on when they tackled SU's TE at the 3 yard line as time expired. Again not any guarantee of anything but I thought it was interesting that hardly anyone here could believe that this could be an issue.
We went to Miami multiple times, Auburn, Florida State, South Florida, UCF and really haven't had the same kind of issues that even some of the SU players have had in the Dome.
As I said I hope we are competitive, we think we have a team that is getting better, but it may be a step back this weekend, but the measuring stick will be against the middle of the pack teams.
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Re: Tennessee, Auburn, Florida State, Florida, Miami, UCF....
Oct 2, 2013, 9:35 PM
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IMHO, I'm thinking it's that "competitive" that will be any difference in the game....it'll be a) does our team come to compete (that being the biggest one, truthfully) b) how competitive does Cuse play to what we play like and c) which team is better at adjusting through the game....the noise won't be what does it, the heat won't either...think it'll straight up be the players mentality, the coaching, and the level that's put on the field (on both sides). Either way, welcome to the ACC. 
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Re: Tennessee, Auburn, Florida State, Florida, Miami, UCF....
Oct 2, 2013, 9:51 PM
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Thanks, most Syracuse fans realize that conference realignment has turned many conferences upside down in terms of traditional rivals and such, getting invited into the ACC at this time was probably the best scenario for us, we hope that we can raise our level of football play up to where we are competing at the level we were in the 80's and 90's. We usually play a pretty strong OOC schedule and need to get to the point where we are winning some of those tough games to represent the conference well. I think we are on the right track, we'll have some growing pains, hope Saturday is not one of them, and that we'll bring an exciting brand of play in both football and basketball that will help the conference as a whole.
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Well it depended on who we played but...
Oct 2, 2013, 11:53 PM
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We beat Miami in Miami, the last game we played in Miami was a 17-10 loss, lost to Auburn 37-34 in OT, we've beaten UCF several times (never lost to them for what that's worth), North Carolina, East Carolina and South Florida. Lost to FSU, Miami, Tennessee, North Carolina, NCSt., playing in the heat hasn't been a problem, it's more a function of what state the program was in. Upsets when we've been down in the Dome, but not many on the road against good teams when unless we were pretty good. Travelling for most teams of a Syracuse caliber is tough especially to play good teams.
Bottom line is Syracuse during the late 80's up until about 2001 (a 10 win season) we were pretty good with some really good years and some ok years. Wheels started to fall off through 2000's (Greg Robinson hire really set us back), but when Marrone was hired recruited picked up a bit to the point now where we aren't over the hump but the future looks much brighter to the point where we hope to be an asset to the conference in football very soon. Like I've said most Syracuse fans are pretty reasonable and see the Cuse program on an upswing, just as you guys have had some ups and downs, we hope the cycle is swinging back in our favor given the uptick in the level of recruits we've been getting especially at QB which has been a sore subject at SU for more than a decade now.
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