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Last year nobody wanted Big12. What better way to entice...
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May 23, 2012, 10:02 AM

Last year nobody wanted to join or stay in the Big12 because of Longhorn network, Texas power, etc. I'm thinking Big12 really did not have anyone interested this year either and had to devise a way to get good schools to join them. So they made a deal with the SEC for a champions game which really was a statement that they were expanding...can't have a Big12 champion without it. Wouldn't be interesting if no one was interested again. It would make the champions game deal nothing.
Nobody really wants big conferences (fewer winners). This sounds all like a scheme by the Big 12 to remain relevant and ESPN is helping them to get college football to play the game their way...only 4 contracts to negotiate and payout.


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Re: Last year nobody wanted Big12. What better way to entice...


May 23, 2012, 10:20 AM

The LHN wasn't the problem.

The problem was unequal revenue sharing for Tier 1 and Tier 2 rights.

The LHN was the straw that broke the camel's back.

The new Big 12 contract has equal revenue sharing for Tiers 1 and 2, and schools retain 100% of their Tier 3 money.

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The SEC and Big 12 champions will rarely if ever play


May 23, 2012, 10:35 AM

in the SEC/Big12 Champions game--- it will be the most attractive team that didn't win the championship. The champions will be in the playoff 90% of the time. If the game is in Dallas or NO, we'll likley never play in it as one of the current B12 schools will probably be a better draw-- i.e., UT OU OSU etc.

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Re: The SEC and Big 12 champions will rarely if ever play


May 23, 2012, 11:01 AM

> in the SEC/Big12 Champions game--- it will be the
> most attractive team that didn't win the
> championship. The champions will be in the playoff
> 90% of the time. If the game is in Dallas or NO,
> we'll likley never play in it as one of the current
> B12 schools will probably be a better draw-- i.e., UT
> OU OSU etc.


That's presuming the current BCS Bowls and model continue to exist once the 4-team playoff begins.

My guess is that once the BCS contract expires, the SEC/12 Champions Bowl ends up being a defacto annual playoff game between the SEC and Big 12 champions, with the winner to face off against the Pac and B1G champ (i.e., the Rose/Fiesta winner) in the National Title Game.

If this happens, then the SEC/12 Bowl would probably alternate annually between the Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl.

Every year, the National Championship game would be a Big 12 or SEC vs. B1G or Pac match-up.

The ACC, Big East and "non-AQ" remnants would be left to figure out their own destinies.

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it CAN'T be done that way-- that's a slam dunk anti trust


May 31, 2012, 11:13 AM

law suit and they know it-- that's why they are saying conf champs in top 6 or top 4 overall -- it leaves room for other conferences-- they won't be allowed to do it the way you're talking about -- same reason another BCS bowl was added and why their were clauses added to allow for other conferences to earn births in those games a few years ago.

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i don't think you understand how anti-trust law works***


May 31, 2012, 11:35 AM



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umm, yes I do-- and they know a lawsuit would be imminent


Jun 1, 2012, 11:51 PM

if they proposed big 4 champs were only ones to make the playoffs- it has to allow opportunity for outsiders. Thats why you have not seen any league official even suggesting such- just a bunch of yahoos and chicken littles on message boards misinterpreting some proposals to mean that.

They just had to change the BCS a few years ago to allow more room for non AQ schools because antitrust threat was real and they certainly didn't want it going to court......... their entire gig would be up

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They don't need 12 teams to have a champion***


May 31, 2012, 11:17 AM



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Re: Last year nobody wanted Big12. What better way to entice...


Jun 2, 2012, 12:12 AM

Well, it worked. With all of this talk, it certainly has made them more relevant. No one ever said Texans didn't know how to cut a deal and make money.

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