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How can Muschamp be so bad as a head coach?
Nov 10, 2013, 12:02 AM
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I mean, he was a coordinator.
I just think back to when we hired Dabo. so many on here wanted...
Muschamp
Jim Leavett
The pirate
Paul Johnson
I'm glad tiger net posters don't get to make real decisions concerning.
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110%er [8009]
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Concerning Clemson***
Nov 10, 2013, 12:03 AM
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called Karma - he is an a. h. - nobody who knew him wanted
Nov 10, 2013, 2:56 AM
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him here!
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Re: How can Muschamp be so bad as a head coach?
Nov 10, 2013, 12:05 AM
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Well maybe my memory fails me but I dont remember anyone wanting Johnson. I know I sure didnt
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Quite a few wanted Johnson***
Nov 10, 2013, 12:06 AM
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Re: Quite a few wanted Johnson
Nov 10, 2013, 12:08 AM
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I dont remember them but they were idiots
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Re: Quite a few wanted Johnson***
Nov 10, 2013, 7:51 AM
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I thought it was the Coach Johnson from Vandy that everyone wanted.
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Orange Blooded [4433]
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I'd say the majority on here wanted Muschamp and I was just
Nov 10, 2013, 12:05 AM
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about to ask if they still wanted him.
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Re: I wanted Bowden
Nov 10, 2013, 12:09 AM
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to leave ASAP as I recall
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You left out Bill Cowher***
Nov 10, 2013, 12:09 AM
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Re: You left out Bill Cowher***
Nov 10, 2013, 12:25 AM
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He was my pick.....what player would want to face that scowl after screwing up.
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Definitely looks like Jimbo assumed the Saban lineage
Nov 10, 2013, 12:09 AM
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Of former Saban assts, Muschamp is taking some lumps. Being fired up and more talented does not substitute for a game plan.
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I remember a time when everyone seemed to
Nov 10, 2013, 12:23 AM
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want Jim Grobe....
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i wanted mr cutcliffe.***
Nov 10, 2013, 12:26 AM
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Leavitt was good
Nov 10, 2013, 12:28 AM
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look at USF since
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Bowden teams were soft and seemed to lack discipline, and
Nov 10, 2013, 12:29 AM
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I believe a lot of people who wanted Muschamp used the following faulty logic:
Muschamp cusses a lot and has a nasty temper there is a picture of him on the sidelines with blood on him, so he must be a bada$$, and therefore he would instill discipline and toughness in our players, so therefore he would be a good head coach for Clemson.
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Re: How can Muschamp be so bad as a head coach?
Nov 10, 2013, 12:40 AM
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You left off Garry Patterson - who has a losing record vs. BCS-level teams since 2010
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Gary Patterson says hello!***
Nov 10, 2013, 12:40 AM
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So does Kiffin. Oh wait***
Nov 10, 2013, 12:53 AM
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notice what TCU has done since joining the Big 12...
Nov 10, 2013, 1:08 AM
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7-6 last year, 3-6 this year. Most of Tigernet's dream head coaches have fallen off the radar.
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Yes, TCU
Nov 10, 2013, 7:11 AM
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actually has to compete against the Big 12 teams on the field in addition to recruit against them.
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Will Musk
Nov 10, 2013, 12:44 AM
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Will end up on uga's staff, wait.
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Our problem has been that we want another NC, and all
Nov 10, 2013, 7:48 AM
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coaches since Danny Ford have been held to his standard of winning one.
Therefore, in short order, if they don't produce, they're toast! Hatfield was a disaster-in-waiting, a hire that baffled us older Tigers, because we felt that we should have been able to pick from the cream of the top.
Tommy West was a good man, albeit over his head. Then, we thought Tommy Bowden was the answer...simply because we thought his Daddy's success would translate through the son. That love affair was over in a few years.
Now, we've got Dabo Swinney, and as I've posted previously, I believe the verdict on his tenure is still out. Like it or not, there are too many Clemson people who believe our season centers on the Clemson/South Carolina game, and losing to them continuously will bring a firestorm...regardless of our season unless a NC is in order. Friends, I'm telling you that busloads of Clemson fans...and I mean grads, fans, big time donors, etc...don't give a hoot about the ACC, could care less about ACC titles and live for beating the Chickens. Coach has to find the way to end this "peating" business this year.
I like Dabo Swinney and support him strongly....I've said so repeatedly. However, regardless of accomplishments other than that NC, he won't survive at Clemson by losing to the Gamecocks continuously. I've simply been around our program for too many years....
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agreed...this losing to the chickens has to end this year***
Nov 10, 2013, 9:28 AM
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Re: How can Muschamp be so bad as a head coach?
Nov 10, 2013, 8:29 AM
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I'm not crazy about Muschamp, but a boatload of injuries and 4 turnovers will make any coach look bad.
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Re: How can Muschamp be so bad as a head coach?
Nov 10, 2013, 9:58 AM
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Paul Johnson was already the GT when Dabo was hired. Remember Dabo's first game as interim HC was against Johnson.
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Will Kirby Smart be nest Florida coach? Or Charlie Strong
Nov 10, 2013, 10:56 AM
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nm
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No offensive core belief or vision along with injuries***
Nov 10, 2013, 11:04 AM
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Doesn't he have like 85 injuries on his team...he needs to
Nov 10, 2013, 11:05 AM
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be cut a little slack this season. When a large majority of your starters are injured, these kinds of performances shouldn't surprise anyone...
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Gus Malzahn is more what people had in mind
Nov 10, 2013, 11:09 AM
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How many coaches take a team from the bottom to a national title contender in 1 year? Malzahn is doing it. Sure there's always going to be a Muschamp scenerio but usually the safer bet is to go with experience...like Malzahn, Meyers, etc.
Dabo in yr one was still experimenting with Napier. Thank goodness we are out of the learning curve.
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Malzahn had very little experience. 1 year as a HC at
Nov 10, 2013, 11:13 AM
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Arkansas State after 3 years as OC at Auburn.
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Two things.
Nov 10, 2013, 11:36 AM
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Malzahn recruited a great portion of these players. Those left from last year's team were recruiting to play in his system along with those who came in this year.
He wasn't there last year so his players were being introduced to a new system.
AU made the right decision to hire him because most of the players on the team were his.
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He was a defensive coordinator and his defense at UF has
Nov 10, 2013, 11:10 AM
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been excellent the majority of the time. It's the offense that's the train wreck, and that's sometimes what you get when you hire a coordinator that specializes at one side of the ball.
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Hartins - I enjoy reading your well thought posts
Nov 10, 2013, 11:21 AM
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I know you are right about those wanting Dabo gone if he continues losing the rivalry game, but reality is that would mean firing a 10-2 coach or even 11-2 coach with a bowl win.
Do fans consider how that will make Clemson look nationally and do those fans consider what must be going through the mind of any potential HC hires?
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