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Guys and gal, Tommy Bowden is the only reason our..........
Dec 6, 2015, 7:13 PM
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football program is where it is today. After all, he hired Dabo and lobbied for Dabo to be our interim coach when he was fired. All you Tommy haters owe him a big apology and at least a friendly Christmas card this year. It appears that hiring Tommy was one of the best things we ever did.
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Yep Bowden loved Clemson and we owe him gratitude***
Dec 6, 2015, 7:17 PM
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He loved us so much he threatened to leave for Arkansas !
Dec 6, 2015, 7:28 PM
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Interesting that he is still not coaching.
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He played us for an extension/salary increase...
Dec 6, 2015, 8:51 PM
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taking full advantage of wins over fading programs like Tennessee, FSU and the coots to hold on to his job. It was a charade - a lie. They weren't going to hire him.
He regularly underachieved with the level of talent he recruited and was terribly inconsistent. It was HIS results and the tendencies of his teams that birthed the term that we shall not mention.
It's no accident that he's not a coach now, despite the fact that in the coaching realm he's still a fairly young guy. He's not a head coach at this level... and it took us about five years too long to figure that out.
As for the "facilities"... blah blah blah. A lot of guys could have gotten that done and QUICKER if we had actually been building the program during the final five years of TB's tenure. Instead, he was squandering talent, playing us with the Arky coaching charade, and in my opinion generally ripping Clemson off. Does anyone REALLY believe it took HIS special talents or skills to convince the BOD that we needed to pony up the cash for first class facilities at Clemson?? For heavens sakes, WHY?
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Re: He played us for an extension/salary increase...
Dec 6, 2015, 8:53 PM
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Sorry that I TD'ed your post. I was trying to TU the post, as it is 100% dead-on, but got sloppy with my mouse.
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Re: He played us for an extension/salary increase...
Dec 6, 2015, 10:54 PM
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The only way I would credit TB for the facilities upgrades is if he had ponied up a quarter million or so for their construction. Its not much of a stretch for a coach to lobby for better facilities.
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Re: Guys and gal, Tommy Bowden is the only reason our..........
Dec 6, 2015, 7:20 PM
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Good point. In any job it is important to be a good fit. Dabo is an excellent fit no doubt. TB did recommend him and that is an important fact to remember.
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Re: Guys and gal, Tommy Bowden is the only reason our..........
Dec 6, 2015, 7:24 PM
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TB recommended Dabo because he knew that he would be a failure. Give TB credit for nothing
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Is that you Ann?***
Dec 6, 2015, 7:24 PM
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Terry Don Phillips deserves more credit for giving Dabo
Dec 6, 2015, 7:26 PM
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the chance that nobody else would have. Tommy was the coot killa !
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Not to mention getting the..........
Dec 6, 2015, 7:29 PM
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discussion started and the ball rolling on the West end zone project. How did THAT turn out for recruiting.
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Re: Not to mention getting the..........
Dec 6, 2015, 7:56 PM
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Is there a limit on how many man crushes a fellow can have before it gets weird?
Not that there is anything wrong with getting weird. I just cannot figure the lingering Tommy man crush so many people have.
Heck, I can't figure out how anyone who had seen Coach Bowden on the ACC TV Show would ever bring his name up again.
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Re: Not to mention getting the..........
Dec 6, 2015, 7:58 PM
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true
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Might be time to get over the breakup.
Dec 6, 2015, 7:58 PM
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Tommy sure has.
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Re: Guys and gal, Tommy Bowden is the only reason our..........
Dec 6, 2015, 8:02 PM
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Yes , I think we should give him another 3 million $ bonus . It's ALL because of HIM .
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Bowden played a key role in laying the foundation for sure.
Dec 6, 2015, 8:05 PM
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But to say he is the "only" reason for Clemson's success is the overstatement of the day.
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Re: Guys and gal, Tommy Bowden is the only reason our..........
Dec 6, 2015, 8:54 PM
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Stupid. He never took football seriously here. He was in way over his head.
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Re: Guys and gal, Tommy Bowden is the only reason our..........
Dec 6, 2015, 8:56 PM
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It took him 3 years to refer to HIS football team as "US". For the longest Clemson's football team was referenced as "THEY" at every turn. What a putz.
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Re: Guys and gal, Tommy Bowden is the only reason our..........
Dec 6, 2015, 9:01 PM
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If Tommy West wasn't so horrible we never would have hired Bowden. We should also thank Tommy West!!!
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Re: Guys and gal, Tommy Bowden is the only reason our..........
Dec 6, 2015, 9:11 PM
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Thank Boddy Robinson and Max Lennon for firing Danny and hiring Hatfield.....and so on. At the end Tommy Bowden was never the talent that Rich Rod was. Just took too long to accept it.
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Re: Guys and gal, Tommy Bowden is the only reason our..........
Dec 6, 2015, 9:18 PM
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Shouldn't Kevin Bacon be in that somewhere?
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God had a plan......nuff said***
Dec 6, 2015, 9:39 PM
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He did teach us how much we hated losing big games and he
Dec 6, 2015, 9:42 PM
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should have a copyright/trademark for inventing "Clemsoning".
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Re: He did teach us how much we hated losing big games and he
Dec 6, 2015, 10:00 PM
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Yup, he's the "only" reason. Right... Where do you people come from?
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Give me a break
Dec 6, 2015, 11:25 PM
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Tommy Bowden deserves absolutely no credit for anything Clemson has done the last 5 years or for what they are going to do in the future. Sure he said Dabo would make a good interim coach but I would guarantee that he never thought Dabo would last past the bowl game. Dabo accomplished more in this year alone than Bowden did in his entire career at Clemson. TB might have been a good person but he was a terrible football coach and the best thing to ever happen to Clemson was him being shown the door. Not sure why some still consider him in such high praises. This is the same guy who continues to talk down about Clemson on TV every chance he gets and said that DW should not even be considered for a Heisman.
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Tommy Bowden is a good Christian man!!***
Dec 6, 2015, 11:35 PM
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You are forgetting that TDP had already been very impressed with Dabo.
Dec 6, 2015, 11:36 PM
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I am willing to bet good money that TDP was going to make Dabo interim head coach before Bowden suggested it.
Some people here act like TDP was some idiot who would never have known who Dabo was if Bowden had not brought his name up.
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No. And no again.
Dec 6, 2015, 11:44 PM
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Just no.
Coach TB did not change the culture, hire Brent V, hire Chad Morris, beat LSU, beat Ohio St, beat OK, win the Division, win the ACC or win a BCS bowl.
Now coach TB certainly did not beat 40+ unranked opponents in a row, win 15 in a row, go undefeated at home twice in a row or completely redefine and restructure the word "Clemsoning."
But supposedly he lobbied for Dabo and we know he hired Dabo as a WR coach. And he complained about the facilities and was as he stated often "only 1 or 2 plays away" from a different season.
Giving TB credit for what Dabo has built is like....saying we won ACC Championship Saturday bc Kelly Bryant converted a 3rd down play to keep drive alive when DW went out.
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York!!!! Great to see you back! Good work on this post!***
Dec 7, 2015, 6:48 AM
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