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Fossil fuels and nuclear need to be phased out--timeline???
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Fossil fuels and nuclear need to be phased out--timeline???


Dec 5, 2022, 9:43 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11494991/Switzerland-BAN-electric-cars-roads-power-shortages.html
Switzerland will BAN electric cars from roads during power shortages
Plans drawn up in the event Switzerland is hit by blackouts this winter call for all electric cars to be banned from the roads except for 'essential journeys' to limit power consumption.



It's obvious that with the world's population increasing and with developing nations using more energy in the years ahead, that we will need more energy sources and that nuclear and fossil fuels will need to continue to be a major component for the foreseeable future.

Hopefully the Swiss will have an uneventful winter and at least they have a plan to deal with the effects of the war in Ukraine.

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SWISS know their shidd!


Dec 5, 2022, 9:48 AM

They don’t mess around

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I guess because I work in the power industry, I don't think


Dec 5, 2022, 10:02 AM

of this as a 'politics' topic. in fact, it's definitely more of a business/marketing/solution optimization type of discussion for me.


Netzero 2030 is the timeline...but part of that has to mean finding other ways of meeting demand without producing carbon. Right now, it's interesting to see how some governments are landing on this. Some of going the restrictions route out of necessity (like the Swiss), but I wonder what long term solution they have in mind - hold out for better energy storage? regulate and control energy usage? invest in decarbonization technology? I know some states here have 'banned' gas turbines. They aren't planning to buy anymore in the future. But I wonder if that will change as the demand changes. Especially since the US and UK governments have started hedging their bets on stuff like carbon capture and Hydrogen - knowing that base load power generating equipment is not going to cut it.

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Carbon is graphite, Diamond, and fullerene


Dec 5, 2022, 10:43 AM

Power generation is not creating any of these…

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Re: I guess because I work in the power industry, I don't think


Dec 5, 2022, 11:00 AM [ in reply to I guess because I work in the power industry, I don't think ]

Short term it's gotta be nuclear...and the best way to do nuclear is SMR's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrT3m89Y3M

Medium term we desperately need to get thorium nuclear or LFTR's sorted. It's a recurring source of irritation to me that the Chinese are testing a thorium reactor as we speak with technology given to them by the American Oak Ridge Project that invented that tech in the '60's...and for whatever ridiculous reason we've never built one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMUYxya1lhs

Coastal area can just build ginormous offshore wind-turbine platforms (Norway is building a massive one called the Hywind Tampen that will have an 88-megawatt capacity, and they're planning an even larger one that's got a 1.5 gigawatt capacity), but that won't fill in the grid in interior regions...and so obviously that's where solar or especially nuclear will have to come in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsJ-fe6QJO4

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If environmentalism was genuine, instead of watermelon, then


Dec 5, 2022, 2:32 PM

Nuclear would be the answer.

But they're just commies.

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