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Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 10:47 PM
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I know I am missing something, but it is included in a package that everyone already has for no additional money. So does this mean all the channels that were in this package already will take a pay cut? Or will this channel eventually be a add on for an additional cost after a while? Seems like the number of people that currently have it in their package would decrease dramatically if they had to pay extra above what they already pay. Like I said, I'm sure someone can turn a light on for me, seeing how in the initial year there is only 2 games worth watching (and all the women volleyball).
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 10:53 PM
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Are you serious? The providers (DTV, Dish, TWC, Cablevision etcetc) all have agreed to pay espn/secn $1.40 per month for ever basic subscriber in the SE footprint and a lesser amount outside of that footprint. Then that SECN gets to charge advertising dollars on their station. End result after Espn and SEC split the pot is every SEC school gets around $40 million per year
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 10:56 PM
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It is $20 million Coot.
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actually
Aug 15, 2014, 11:02 PM
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actually it is about 20 million per team from the SEC network and another 20ish million from their regular tv contract. So in three years (after start up costs) it will be about 40 million per team per year. There is a great article in fox news that breaks down the details.
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Re: actually
Aug 15, 2014, 11:07 PM
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I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I still don't see where the money is coming from. I understand what is being reported that each school will get, but where does the additional cash come from? It's not like the discovery channel says that you can have 20% of its revenue...
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 11:01 PM
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So does the money ( minus advertising) get subtracted from the pool that the other channels were already getting?
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?***
Aug 15, 2014, 11:10 PM
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 11:10 PM
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> So does the money ( minus advertising) get subtracted
> from the pool that the other channels were already
> getting?
You really do not understand this topic at all.
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 11:16 PM
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Seeing how the only useful info has not come from you, and I am the one asking questions.... It would seem obvious that I do not understand and you do nothing but restate things you have heard from others. Wasn't attacking you just trying to get an understanding. Perhaps if you had a better understanding yourself you could recognize when someone is searching for knowledge and not being a jerk off. Go play in traffic, your time is coming.
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 11:19 PM
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Btw, thanks for all knowledgable info. Proving once again why Tigers need no introduction.
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 11:23 PM
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Advertisements. I bet there will be a lot of ###### and Pickup Truck ads running . The way to score with the Typical SEC fan is to talk about his ride or his pride , either or.
Possibly PBR ? That swill seems right in line with a Conferencialist's tastes.
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 16, 2014, 10:46 AM
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Midol would be a great sponsor for the secn.
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 11:00 PM
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Up to the providers to figure out how to recoup those charges, but Espn bullied them all into making it part of their basic packages up front, so basically no new cost to consumer, only to providers. Now they will have to decide if it is worth charging more in the future at the expense of losing customers to the competition. Espn played their cards right. They had the best hand and won, over 75 million VT's now have the network at no new cost to viewers. Brilliant. ACCN will be taking notes.
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Well let's use charter as an example
Aug 15, 2014, 11:10 PM
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Since I live in Anderson and subscribe to charter. If you subscribe to the sports package on charter you get the SEC NETWORK a 1.40 of that subscription fee goes to ESPN and they keep half and give half to the SEC if it's in the SEC footprint. Out side the SEC footprint ESPN gets .25 per subscription and they give the SEC .121/2 per subscription. They also split all advertising dollars for their allotted time the carrier gets some of the time to sell. I'm sure the other carriers require some type of sports tier package to get the network they aren't going to give it away on basic or advanced basic plans.
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Re: Well let's use charter as an example
Aug 15, 2014, 11:13 PM
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Check again, every provider to date is offering it free on their basic tier Digital package. Every one of them. Digital tier basic is diff from plain basic btw, but you knew that already.basic
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Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 15, 2014, 11:19 PM
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To get the sports package which includes SEC NETWORK. I called and asked about my plan because I wanted to watch Texas A&M hang 50 on your depleted defense. So I'm being charged to get it!
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Well I'll send them the article and see if I get a refund
Aug 15, 2014, 11:38 PM
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Lol......  The writer even admits that he's making assumptions. I guess you missed that part? You're just like all the other coots who have been coming over here for years preaching how much more lucrative the SEC TV package is and how much more money per year you coots are gonna get. Well we check the numbers every June when the conference checks go out and it's never like you coots think it's going to turn out.
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Re: Well I'll send them the article and see if I get a refund
Aug 15, 2014, 11:41 PM
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Seems like you touched a nerve...
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Re: Well I'll send them the article and see if I get a refund
Aug 16, 2014, 12:04 AM
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Well one fact remains true none of the writers have seen the contract and there all different and ESPN isn't releasing the contract details.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 15, 2014, 11:25 PM
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If you have basic digital tier, then you get ESPNU, and that means you get the SECN at no additional charge. Like I said, big diff between basic and digital tier basic. If you are HD already and get ESPNU you get the SECN at no additional charge.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 15, 2014, 11:28 PM
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Break it down for me, I'm not doubting you. I just wonder if I get it at no additional charge, where does the money come from?
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 15, 2014, 11:40 PM
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> Break it down for me, I'm not doubting you. I just
> wonder if I get it at no additional charge, where
> does the money come from?
Ok. I explained it above. The providers (DTV, Dish, TWC etc.) all want to give this new channel to their customers that want it. But it is the property of of the originator (Espn/Secn), and they must pay the originator of that content to broadcast it. The Secn negotiated $1.40 per month per viewer in the SE footprint from the Providers in order for them to be able to broadcast this new station. The PROVIDERS pay espn/seen that money in order to have the right to broadcast that new network, and the new network gets to charge advertising to all who advertise on that new channel. None of the current cable stations or satellite stations have ANYTHING to do with the revenue that the PROVDERS pay espn/seen for the right to broadcast their content. Totally separate.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 15, 2014, 11:44 PM
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So the providers have agreed to take less money and provide the same amount of coverage plus an additional channel for the same money but give you more payout? Keep pedaling the same info without any real answers. Hmmm
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 15, 2014, 11:55 PM
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> So the providers have agreed to take less money and
> provide the same amount of coverage plus an
> additional channel for the same money but give you
> more payout? Keep pedaling the same info without any
> real answers. Hmmm
No. You have a reading comprehension issue. NO PARTY ever agreed to take LESS money. Did you read that anywhere above or is that just in your head? Espn/secn negotiated with each provider separately, hence the difference in agreement dates. Espn likely muscled the negotiations to the PROVIDERS in such a way that they insisted this new network be part of the basic digital tier (the tier that includes espnu) at no additional cost. Must have worked, they have all signed up for that exact arrangement. Who pays? Right now the PROVIDERS do. Could they find a way to pass that cost onto the consumer? You bet. They are all working on how to do that in an indirect way right now. It may happen, but the espn/secn negotiated it well up front, and 75-80 million viewers are now on board at no extra cost. Future ACCN is watching and learning.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:09 AM
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No. You have a reading comprehension issue. NO PARTY ever agreed to take LESS money
So no one is taking less money, and no one is paying more money, but the SEC is making more money. Yup that seems about right. I don't see how that can fail.
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No, the cable providers like Comcast will make less money
Aug 16, 2014, 1:04 PM
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initially because they have to pay ESPN/SECN for the channel. Comcast will then likely increase the fees that they charge their customers to compensate and my cable bill will go up.
Ultimately, everyone that gets the network WILL pay for it, it's just a matter of how long it takes the providers to raise their rates.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 15, 2014, 11:54 PM
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Basically, if you're paying for satellite or cable, and you have the SEC Network with a package, then your money is helping to support that network. I wouldn't be too shocked if Brent Musburger, now a very loyal, and very well paid SECN employee, rethinks his "most exciting 30 seconds" with an obvious SEC slant. It very well may happen on August 28, if the guys who sign that fat paycheck suggest strongly that he fall in love with "sandstorm"! Yes, I hate it too! But this is big business, and if Brent smells the money.....
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 15, 2014, 11:58 PM
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I'm not doubting that the Sec channel is making money, I'm just curious where it is coming from other than advertising. If I'm not paying extra and I have it that means that someone ( carrier or combination of channels) are taking less money, right? So who?
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:01 AM
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So you are saying that direct tv is covering the entire thing? Everything that you are claiming to make through this deal is covered by the provider? That may be so, but I don't see it lasting if that is the case.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:04 AM
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Eventually the consumer has to pay more in order for network or package to make money right? So as long as I pay the same as I did before the sec network I don't see the projections becoming fact.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:07 AM
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> I'm not doubting that the Sec channel is making
> money, I'm just curious where it is coming from other
> than advertising. If I'm not paying extra and I have
> it that means that someone ( carrier or combination
> of channels) are taking less money, right? So who?
You either do not read and comprehend well or are just trolling, hard to imagine anyone that cannot grasp these simple concepts explained above. Are you really really old? Have trouble understanding basic conversation? Or are you yanking chains? I care not either way, just wanted to be helpful, now see that you are less than honest in your replies most likely.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:12 AM
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I have a bridge for sale.....
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:19 AM
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> I have a bridge for sale.....
Yeah, thought you were just yanking chains. No way anyone is that dense. Listen, the whole topic was about the future ACCN when it comes out and how the espn/secn introduction can tell us something about what to expect revenue wise for the ACC, you just went down the rabbit hole. NP, peace.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:28 AM
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Look there is a pie for sale that has always been bought by the same person. Now that pie has an extra slice but the same person buys it for the same price they always have. But now the new baker says he made more off the pie than the origional baker and the origional baker still is making the same amount if money. Where is the extra money/ pie coming from when 2 variables remain unchanged. I don't know how to dumb down the origional question any more. You do provide facts/ statistics but you go not answer where additional money is coming from if no one pays extra and additional services are provided.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:29 AM
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Like playing cards with my brothers kids!!!!
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:33 AM
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I have two guns, one for each of ya
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:37 AM
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> I have two guns, one for each of ya
Interesting quote, where did that come from outside of the movie itself?
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:34 AM
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But hey, GL to you, really, wish you the best and all. Sincerely actually, just do not understand the need to troll. Does not bother me, keep on if you like.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:37 AM
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I wish you had an answer to the only question I asked. But I understand you are simple.
Best of luck to you. Dabo and I are down by the creek, walking in water.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:37 AM
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Skin that smoke wagon and see what happens
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:39 AM
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Hog leg...get it right
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:40 AM
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Apparently me ringo's is an educated man. And you sir are no johnny ringo
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:44 AM
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> Apparently me ringo's is an educated man. And you sir
> are no johnny ringo
Oh you my huckleberry, poor thing, always wound a little too tight
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:49 AM
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Maybe poker isn't your game Gi, I know, let's have a spelling bee
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:55 AM
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> Maybe poker isn't your game Gi, I know, let's have a
> spelling bee
Doc Holliday: [after killing Johnny Ringo] It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 12:58 AM
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Oh GI, I forgot that you were there. You may go now.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 1:02 AM
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Doc Holliday: You know, Frederic ####### Chopin.
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 1:05 AM
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Very cosmopolitan
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 1:01 AM
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You said it, not me.
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Re: It's past midnight. You can suck the eggs now....***
Aug 16, 2014, 1:04 AM
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No sir, you said it all.
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Yea... you need a menu? Time to shut the shop on kangaroos.***
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Re: Well GI Joe I only get HD channels and they charge extra
Aug 16, 2014, 1:09 AM
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Forgive me if I don't shake hands
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Re: It's coming out of the providers pockets
Aug 16, 2014, 1:09 PM
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And like every other service I pay for, they will have to give me something in return in order for me to continue to pay for it. If I like what they're offering I'll pay for it. If I don't, I'll downgrade.
Out of all of the digital TV channels being offered, it's kind of silly to think that one little channel (which isn't even offered in all parts of the country) is going to be the driver for a sudden rate increase. That's just pure silly.
Rates will eventually go up, because they always do, not because the sec has football.
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Technically it's just the top 2 of their 5 packages***
Aug 16, 2014, 12:56 PM
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You're wrong, ATT U-Verse doesn't have it
Aug 16, 2014, 12:53 PM
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as part of their basic, Family or U200, you have to upgrade to U300 or higher to get it. So yeah, you're wrong.
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 15, 2014, 11:53 PM
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Yea, I'm with you. I don't understand it either. Found out last night it's on my TV too and I haven't subscribed to it or even ask for it. I guess they give it to everyone free so they can brag about how many subscribers they have. I have Comcast in TN. And if they gonna put it on my package, I think I should get a discount on my bill every month.
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Re: Can someone explain to me how the sec network will make money?
Aug 16, 2014, 10:13 AM
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Just like espn's flagship program is sports center, secn has their "sec now" show weeknights at 6pm. It's their own little sec sports center show every night. That will be their centerpiece and will draw millions of viewers nightly. Instead of doing press releases for schedule releases etc they are doing them first on sec now. It's espn and I'm not betting against them. They are using espn studios, staff and leadership. I think soon the acc will have a similar network likely propped up by espn as well.
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