
Wednesday November 12, 2008
Its a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
What a crazy, eventful 48 hours it has been.
I would have never thought that I would be spending two days playing Columbo but I have recently found out that I could not cut it as a private eye.
After spending most of the last 48 hours on the phone trying to talk to anyone who has any knowledge of the Clemson coaching search, I am now more confused than ever. Every newspaper guy, TV guy, radio guy, website guy, administrator and coach I know to talk to that would have any knowledge on the subject is probably getting tired of talking to me or getting my phone calls.
But I am still sitting here with no more of a clue today than when I started yesterday.
This all started last week actually. Last Friday Clemson’s plane went to Detroit, MI. After investigating I think I know who they talked to but have sworn to not reveal it because the writer who confirmed it is still working on the story and asked that I not say anything on it yet. I apologize but this is a credible writer who has worked hard on the story and I gave him my word. I can tell you that it should come out before the first of next week.
On Monday night I got a call saying Clemson’s plane was heading to Oklahoma City on Tuesday. I had heard the Bob Stoops rumors but logically tried to tell myself that could not have been the case. The same person that told me about the Stoops stuff then claimed he got the story mixed up because Oklahoma’s offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson and Stoops had the same agent.
Several outlets had begun to report Clemson had interest in Wilson, a Maiden, NC native. I was one of the many that believed the story about Wilson until late last night when Wilson told newspapers in Oklahoma that he has had no contact and that he did not even have an agent.
Oklahoma and Clemson websites report today that Terry Don Phillips had instead met with Sooner’s defensive coordinator Brent Venables. However, earlier in the day Venables said he had not been contacted by Clemson.
Venables was not available after practice. The SID office at Oklahoma said he went home after practice. Venables’ wife gave birth last Friday.
Tulsa’s Todd Graham does not have an open date this week like Oklahoma does and Tulsa is over 100 miles away from Oklahoma City. Norman is only 19 miles away.
I do know Terry Don was upset that the plane was tracked and the media was there to shoot videos and pictures of his arrival. I don’t think that should be a surprise though. If Clemson was ranked number five in the country and some school was sending a plane to Oconee or Anderson then I would expect our media to be at the airport.
Terry Don is also considering flying commercial in the future according to a source. I think he will find out that there is a demand for information and people will follow his every move. I have found out that I am not the best at putting all of this together because I still don’t know.
When talking, e-mailing or texting anyone I think has any information on the search, I usually ask them their opinion of who all is still in the race. However, it is never really clear. For example yesterday I talked to someone who has a great national source. I was told that Tommy Tuberville to Clemson is a very good possibility. I picked up the phone to talk to one of my best sources at Clemson and was told that Tuberville is currently not near the top of the list in his opinion.
There are other examples of this kind of contradicting information from usually top sources. For example, Rich Rodriguez is not a candidate according to many but still is a candidate according to at least one good source. Jim Grobe is not interested according to some sources but is still a candidate according to at least one good source. Last week a rivals.com site for Kansas State reported Gary Patterson will be the next head coach at Kansas State but many others swear he will not take the job. Tennessee sources say Butch Davis will be in Knoxville next season but North Carolina sources guarantee that will not be the case.
So here is what I think I can come up with so far. Dabo Swinney, Will Muschamp, Bud Foster, Brent Venables, Gary Patterson, Tommy Tuberville and a few others are still on the list but I can’t confirm Patterson because I do not have ties to him. In fact, I have been told by sources at Clemson to expect him to be on the list but others insist that he is not.
Swinney was the favorite according to some sources because Terry Don really likes him and wants to hire him. However, both Swinney and Phillips understand that Dabo has to win games in order to get the job.
Foster has already had an open date and I am not sure if he has been contacted yet. I have heard he has but have also been told he has not. I am not sure if he has already interviewed.
My latest information this afternoon says that Terry Don and Venables met for four hours last night in Oklahoma. Maybe he was impressive enough to get in the game.
I am not sure what to make of Patterson and his Clemson or Kansas State candidacy. I just have no contacts there.
Kiffin has expressed some interest and I think Clemson has had interest but Terry Don recently said in an interview that someone from California might not fit as well.
Tuberville is the candidate that has had the most success and it will be very interesting to see if and when his divorce with Auburn is finalized.
I would not be surprised if Muschamp interviews next week during Texas’ open date. My gut tells me that Muschamp is near the top, if not the top candidate at the time. I have been told that he would be interested in the Clemson job and my gut tells me that Muschamp has done the most to prepare for a head coaching job.
Some good sources tell me Tuberville to Clemson and Muschamp to Auburn will happen. Others say it will be hard to pull off and the interest may not be as high on all sides as some perceive.
Two days of phone calls, e-mails and text messages have me more confused than ever. No one knows what Terry Don is thinking including those that are very close to him. Conflicting information makes me wonder who is telling the truth and has my respect for private investigators growing.
I guess we should have learned our lesson last year when Nick Saban told the entire world, “I don’t know how else to say it. I am not going to Alabama. I will not be the head football coach at Alabama.” Less than two weeks later, he was named the head coach of the Crimson Tide.

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I hope to God that they were in Detroit talking to Mark Dantonio....great resume as an assistant, great success as a HC, could be a great fit at Clemson. Turned Cinci around, doing the same for Michigan State. Tough as nails.
Talking never hurts - hopefully the Detroit trip was him.
Posted by Justwannaread on November 12, 2008 at 04:41 PM EST #
Or maybe its the Much, Steve Mariucci....he still lives in Michigan.
Posted by Justwannaread on November 12, 2008 at 04:44 PM EST #
Mickey,
I noticed you didn't mention Phillip Fulmer to Clemson. Are you hearing anything in that direction?
Posted by bc on November 12, 2008 at 04:45 PM EST #
Gary Patterson should be on the list, heckuva football coach. Matter of fact he should be the ENTIRE list.
Posted by drock4484 on November 12, 2008 at 05:12 PM EST #
Despite a thorough national search, this job is still Dabo's to lose. If we make it to a bowl game, I think the job is definitely his. It would put him at 4-2 since taking over, with three wins in a row (including a victory over the Gamecocks).
I think that Dabo can perhaps lose another game and still get the job, but it would be harder for TDP to justify Dabo's 3-3 record with the other candidates in the running.
I obviously want Dabo to get the job, but if not then I feel good about our ability to hire an excellent coach. The Clemson job is a very attractive one!
Posted by Judge Keller on November 12, 2008 at 05:12 PM EST #
Judge Keller,
I agree. If Dabo wins out then he will get the job.
justwannaread,
The interview in Michigan was not D'Antonio. He may be on the list but he was not interviewed. Also he is a Gamecock grad. It was not Mariuci either.
bc,
I am not sure Fulmer is high on the list. My gut tells me that he is not at this time.
Posted by Mickey Plyler on November 12, 2008 at 05:16 PM EST #
Good Lord. NOT TUBS. That reeks too much of a Hatfield hire. Arkansas was glad to get rid of him, and so were we. Tubs is no better than what we fired. Auburn will glad to see him go, and in time so will we.
Posted by junk yard+tiger on November 12, 2008 at 05:31 PM EST #
The good news is that there are a lot of good coaches out there, and TDP is a heck of a lot more capable of making a good hire than Bobby Robinson. IMO, Patterson, Muschamp, Foster, Dabo, and Venables, would all be good hires, but Bill Cowher would be the crown jewell if you could get him. If TDP wants to make a legacy for himself, then go out and hire Cowher.
Posted by Locotiger on November 12, 2008 at 05:40 PM EST #
A lot of fans are clamoring for Leach. Does he have a snowball's chance? Also keep us posted on Muschamp and Texas's open date. He is by far my favorite candidate.
Posted by colberttiger on November 12, 2008 at 05:53 PM EST #
I agree with Locotiger ... Bill Cowher is tough as Kevlar, is not a job hopper, he is super focused, he's a family man, his teams are tough, he actually coaches on the sideline (a rarity in the NFL) and would give us instant credibility with all recruits, especially those that want to go pro. The caviling about Cowher never coaching in college is weak. If you can win a superbowl, you can coach at all levels.
Now on to the impossible dream ... Cowher as head coach, Dabo as OC (is still a promotion for Dabo and keeps recruiting continuity).
Posted by califtigerfan on November 12, 2008 at 06:12 PM EST #
Anyone who thinks Dabo will keep this job probably thought we'd play for the national championship this year. Regardless of winning out or not, TDP will clean house. Dabo has no chance.
Posted by RU4GOD2 on November 12, 2008 at 07:54 PM EST #
Great article! Thanks for keeping us updated.
Any news on Fulmer?
Posted by Clemson_Orange on November 12, 2008 at 07:57 PM EST #
Dabo has ZERO chance. Don't forget that he is part of the losing staff that is in place now. Since he's in charge of recruiting it is also why our linemen suck.
Posted by orangeblood1972 on November 12, 2008 at 08:13 PM EST #
NOW THAT COULD BE FACT.
Posted by tigercrazynut on November 12, 2008 at 10:02 PM EST #
TDP gave Tommy Bowden two contract extensions, so nothing that TDP does would surprise me.
The only thing that would surprise me is if Bill Cowher were to come out of retirement and forgo all the fame and fortune of the NFL, to coach college ball in South Carolina.
Posted by Razzmatazz on November 12, 2008 at 11:00 PM EST #
Fulmer bought a house on Keowee. Not from Winkopp, sorry.
Posted by CU732 on November 13, 2008 at 12:26 AM EST #
Nothing against the coaches who have been mentioned, because many of them could end up doing a good job, but Cowher is in a different league and would take the credibility of the program to a new level. He would gain instant respect from the fans, current players, and all of the recruits.
I am sure we would have to pay him a fortune, but a guy like that comes for the challenge, and not the money. I doubt it will happen, but we would be crazy not to go after him.
Posted by Locotiger on November 13, 2008 at 08:52 AM EST #
God grant me the strenght to change the things I can, the grace to accept the things I can't change and the wisdom to know the difference. You folks aren't looking too wise here. Take a chill pill and wait for December. Then listen for the screaming and pouting to start when which ever favored son is not chosen. You want something to cry about? How about the drought and our new President? Can't do anything about those either but they will effect our life a lot more than who the new coach at Clemson is.
Posted by Airport4 on November 13, 2008 at 10:15 AM EST #
Cat's out of the bag?
Paul Strelow w/ The State reported that TDP met with Lane Kiffin in Detroit.
Posted by GoodFella on November 13, 2008 at 10:41 AM EST #
Airport4,
Calm down. This is a Clemson forum and we are debating the positives and negatives of the potential head coaches for entertainment, and because many enjoy having an outlet to voice their opinion. If we wanted to get into politics or weather, then we would probably go to a different forum to voice our opinions. You, my friend, are the one who lacks wisdom.
Posted by Locotiger on November 13, 2008 at 12:34 PM EST #
Mickey,you & Roy Philpott are just alike.Both are stuck on Dabo and are really high on Tubby.
#21
Posted by Prime T.+Tiger on November 13, 2008 at 05:58 PM EST #
Its on the front page of a major website that Bud Foster will interview for the job. Not sure if I am allowed to name the site, I will if someone says its ok.
Posted by navychief on November 13, 2008 at 07:03 PM EST #
A very reliable source says that Leach and Turbeville are not canidates, period.
Posted by indians1 on November 13, 2008 at 09:27 PM EST #
Posted by TigersRDabest2003 on November 16, 2008 at 07:30 AM EST #
Lane kiffin would be a great hire. He would bring an aggersive offense and a fast hard hitting defense.He's been on a very successful staff and knows what it takes to get conf and national championship rings. And he is a great recruiter
Posted by TigersRDabest2003 on November 16, 2008 at 07:41 AM EST #
Posted by junglejane on November 16, 2008 at 07:33 PM EST #