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Thursday August 13, 2009

Football Questions-Volume IV

Football Questions-Vol. IV
Throughout the last few weeks we have tried to take a look at some of the 24 football program questions we posed in the July. Today we continue with the next installment with questions eight and nine on the list of 24.

Are the tight ends a strength?
Each spring college football coaches all across the country talk about getting the tight end more involved in the offense. Each fall camp they speak about the importance of getting the ball to the tight ends more. If you listen to almost any coach’s weekly radio show you will hear a caller ask about increasing the production at tight end. Yet many programs across the nation tend to not get the tight end involved as much as they would like on Saturdays.

I asked former Clemson wide receiver coach Rick Stockstill about this and he made an interesting point. Stock said tight ends get involved in the blocking and pass protection throughout so much of practice and most plays in each game. He said they are big bodies that are not as fast or athletic as the wide outs and the running backs and their hands take a beating on most blocking plays. Stock made the case that the tight ends are not as good with the ball after the catch as a wide out or running back. He made the case that the wide receivers and running backs are used to handling the football more and thus have better ball skills in many cases. So he asks, “why should we want to get the ball to the tight ends more?”

I tend to agree with some of that philosophy. For every time Clemson throws the football to a tight end, it is one less time that C.J. Spiller, Andre Ellington, Jacoby Ford and other wide outs touch it.

Now, I do understand the importance of a tight end in the middle of the field at times. I do understand the tight end as a third down receiver or a red zone target. Balance should be a big part of any offense and having a threat at tight end can help. However, I would be in favor of increasing the running backs’ receptions instead of the tight end.

Also, it is important to note that blocking is the most important aspect in evaluating a tight end. That is a main reason why Michael Palmer is a returning starter.

So, is this unit a strength in 2009?
Palmer is solid. He is fundamentally sound and is athletic enough to contribute in the passing game. He is not able to stretch the field vertically but he has good enough hands to become a bigger part of the passing game. Palmer is a smart player that understands the offense and his assignments. He started three games as a true freshman and caught five balls for 30 yards. The last two seasons he has started 21 games and has 25 catches for 288 yards and four touchdowns. Palmer has played over 1,100 plays over the last two campaign.

Durrell Barry is a terrific athlete that did not live up to his potential for the first two seasons in Tigertown. He improved last season and contributed more. Barry started three contests as a junior but has yet to play more than 150 snaps in a season.

Dwayne Allen is the physically most talented tight end and has the biggest upside. Allen benefitted from red-shirting last year but he should be a major factor in the offense in 2009. This is the kind of tight end some of the top programs in the country are playing with. Allen continues to make strides in his maturation and should have a good freshman season.

When you consider the experience and dependability of Palmer and the athleticism of Barry and Allen, you could think of this as a position of strength in 2009. These guys are not Kellen Winslow and Dave Casper but they are solid. This group of tight ends will also benefit from new position coach Danny Pearman. The new tight end and tackle coach will have this unit playing at a high level and this will be a much more physical group this season.

Should we be optimistic about the offensive line?
There are reasons for optimism along the offensive line but I would classify this as cautious optimism.

Some pre-season magazines have Clemson among the nation’s top 10 offensive lines. Phil Steele’s pre-season publication has the Tigers as the country’s ninth best offensive line.

Another reason for renewed hope for this unit is experience. Thomas Austin played 795 snaps last season, 780 as a sophomore and 117 in his freshman season. Chris Hairston has played 745 snaps and 21 games in his first two seasons. Mason Cloy played 660 snaps in his freshman season last year. Landon Walker benefitted from playing 672 snaps in his freshman campaign.

This group will be better this season also because of competition and talent. Hairston is an All-Conference candidate that could play for a lot of programs. Austin is thought of very highly by NFL scouts. Maybe the biggest upside can be seen in Antoine McClain who showed promise as a freshman.

The starters are being pushed and this competition makes everyone better. Cloy is in a battle for his starting spot at center with red-shirt freshman Dalton Freeman. McClain can’t take a day off because David Smith is finally healthy and is poised for more playing time and right guard.

However, there are concerns with this unit also. Clemson fans are tired of hearing about how good some of these guys are and they want to see it. Production has been down on the offensive front the last couple of seasons so fans are cautious to buy into the pre-season hype.

Also there is a concern with depth at the tackle. J.K. Jay is out for the season with back surgery and Brandon Thomas is not ready yet. Corey Lambert has not lived up to his billing yet. So depth at tackle is a concern.

I am encouraged by the prospects here though. As these guys continue to mature, I think this could be a good line this season and perhaps a great one next year.

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We don't care about next year

Posted by balllin on August 13, 2009 at 11:53 AM EDT #


The answer to Stock's question, "Why should we want to get it to the TE more", is because I have seen too many of our opponents beat us doing just that. This is an example of football coaches not being a smart as they think they are.

Posted by clembird on August 13, 2009 at 11:57 AM EDT #


Agree with both posts above.

We lose Austin (best OL) and both backup tackles to an already thin position (Grant and Lambert) so I'm not sure next year being "better" is given, while it is certainly possible.

And on the TE.....it isn't about them being better with the ball, its about spreading the ball around to keep the defense covering all of the field and honest about all the potential targets. Spiller would be even better if the defense was also worried about the TE's and not just one other receiver. The more they can key on him not worrying about other threats, the less effective he will be.

This is football 101.

Posted by truetiger1998 on August 13, 2009 at 12:11 PM EDT #


Bottom line is that outside of running back, we have serious questions with every offensive unit (QB, WR, OL). To expect that all 3 will meet or exceed expectations is unrealistic. Our offense will struggle at times this year and we will loose games because of it. Too bad, because our defense is national championship caliber.

Posted by PokerTiger on August 13, 2009 at 12:52 PM EDT #


I agree that the TE should not be the focus of your offense but why even recruit a TE if you're not going to at least use him in the passing game? If all they are going to be asked to do is block, then just put another OL'man in there.
No need for a 220 pound TE to get bulldozed by a 280 pound lineman or run right past by a linebacker.

Posted by GoodFella on August 13, 2009 at 01:09 PM EDT #


I do care about next year and the year after and the year after. That is why I like keeping up with recruiting and player development. Also, for clarification, the tight end blocks on most plays anyway but I think they should be a part of the passing game but not as much as some would like. They can spread the field and as I said the threat makes defenses have something to prepare for. Third down and red zone opportunities are important. For example, Palmer had 12 receptions last year and three were for touchdowns. I just don’t think their role should be expanded to the extent some think. Just an opinion.

Posted by Mickey Plyler on August 13, 2009 at 02:28 PM EDT #


Perhaps it should be noted that two of our longest TD passes from camp have been to the TE. Tight ends aren't effective because they're super athletic, they are effective because nobody knows at what time they will break off of a block and catch a pass. This element of surprise keeps defenses honest. Always having that in the back of their minds takes pressure off of the rest of the guys.

Posted by kiggity on August 13, 2009 at 03:38 PM EDT #


Some one said that you need to go deep once a quarter to keep the defense honest, and I think you have to throw to the tight end for the same reason, even if he is not a game breaker. If you use the logic that you need to give the ball to the most talented player, then why not give it to Spiller every play?

I see your point that the TE does not need to be the focal point of the offense if you have Spiller, Ford, and all of the other play-makers, but I think we would benefit as an offense if we committed to throwing the ball to the TE at least five times a game.

Posted by Locotiger on August 13, 2009 at 04:10 PM EDT #


if your premise is that if both the rb and tight end are open then who should you throw to?, then while that is an absurd premise as it almost doesn't happen, of course you throw to the more sure handed guy. but if you are saying that you should not really worry about emphasizing passing to the tight end cos he should block is pretty naive. i could point to the clarks, gates, winslows, wittens of the world but that is too high brow. the question should always be about creating a numerical mismatch in running or passing and throwing to whoever is open. a major tenet of the spread. and a tight end helps provide that.

Posted by tilla on August 13, 2009 at 05:29 PM EDT #


case in point the A11 offense, i believe every coach would love to release all 10 players if possible or at least disguise who is a ball catcher on each play. deemphasizing tight end catching will only hinder an offense. i suggest you read articles in http://smartfootball.blogspot.com/ that might do a better job of providing a differing and in my opinion a superior and cogent perspective. if anything you could make the same argument about throwing to running backs and just require that split end and flanker to be tyhe only pass catchers.

Posted by tilla on August 13, 2009 at 05:29 PM EDT #


kiggity,

Big time TE's esp NFL type TE's like Miami won 5 National Championships utilizing in a pro-style offense, have bodies akin to NBA power forwards, just a few inches shorter, and are often the best athletes on the field. Murry Jarmon from Clemson was drafted in the NFL despite not playing football since high school because at 6'6" with his track & basketball athleticism was seen a prototypical NFL TE.

I have always felt that the biggest difference in college and NFL offenses is the use of the TE, and teams that are offensive powers year in and year out in college football know this and utilize the TE very effectively.

They do like the pros and throw to the FB out the back field too!

Posted by Blue_Caddy on August 13, 2009 at 08:21 PM EDT #


BTW, we have such a guy on the roster ... Dwayne Allen.

Posted by Blue_Caddy on August 13, 2009 at 08:22 PM EDT #


The tight end should be an often-utilized weapon in the passing game. I hope we don't waste Dwayne Allen's talent like we did Ben Hall's.

Posted by Judge Keller on August 13, 2009 at 08:50 PM EDT #


Haven't heard David Smith being mentioned much. Is he in the mix on OL at all?

Posted by bc on August 13, 2009 at 09:03 PM EDT #


I guess what I really meant is the tight end is not going to be as fast or elusive as a receiver or RB usually. But you are right, that does not mean they are not athletic. Heck, centers and guards are athletic. My point was that TE's are effective weapons because they add an element of surprise. There was an article where Tajh was talking about his TD pass to Palmer. He said that the D was in straight cover two and he thought they would rotate to cover the middle. When they didn't he knew that the TE would be open. That's my point really. Using the TE forces D's to adjust or get burned.

Posted by kiggity on August 14, 2009 at 03:01 AM EDT #


I REMEMBER WHEN BENNY CUNNINGHAM DRAGGED ABOUT 4 USC PLAYERS IN THE END ZONE FROM THE 9 YARD LINE THAT WAS WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT A TE CAN DO

Posted by joba on August 14, 2009 at 08:52 AM EDT #


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