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Friday February 12, 2010

Friday E-Mail Bag

Friday E-Mail Bag
Each Friday I publish your comments and answer your questions. To submit a comment or questions please e-mail me at mickeyplyler@hotmail.com.

Mickey,
Friday night pep rallies:
-Riggs Field involvement. Either by having an event their or an actual soccer game. We under utilize it's significance in CU history.

-get downtown churches to assist: through FCA, scheduling events after rally, etc. Lots of resources and parking to be advantageous and they could bring more folks.

-boy scouts: they coordinate some of the parking in that area on game day, so maybe they would be willing to offer additional thoughts

-maybe a"movie on the lawn" or "highlights on the lawn" on Bowman a few times when still summer time weather. After rally everyone could watch a sports movie on giant projection screen or highlights. Just a thought...ATL has something similar in summers at Piedmont Park. You could run the same highlight on side of BB&T too.

-think the idea of assistant coach involvement is great, puts a name with face. Go a step further and ask golf, volleyball, tennis, soccer coaches/team members to be a part of event. Sort met the teams.

I like the whole idea, but remember it is still really expensive for an out of towner like me to stay in Clemson on Friday. All the hotels ding you for both Fri and Sat if a weekend reservation is made at a already heightened rate. It is smarter for us to just carpool up/back on Saturday. Still I would love for the Fri gig to take off.

Good luck.
Ryan

Ryan,
Thanks for your e-mail. I like all of your thoughts and will pass them along to those involved. Your input will get full consideration. I had not thought of many of your ideas. Thanks again.

Mickey,

I was astonished to see so many empty seats in the student section at the FSU game. I know this has been a recurring problem throughout this season. A Clemson student states that the basketball games are not promoted very much to the student body. There is, also, a frustration with waiting in line for hours with no guarantee of getting a ticket to the game.

I am just looking for solutions for the sake of the team. It would seem that the athletic department could devise a more efficient process for ticket distribution to the student body. This should be done in a way that unused tickets are made available to the general public in a reasonable amount of time.

Regards,

Don

Don,
I have beaten this dead horse far too long. There were not any long lines Wednesday and they were all guaranteed to get in. I am skeptical about the promotions thing too. They have a computer and access to a schedule. You should not have to promote games. In my opinion, we are talking about apathy and no amount of promotion can combat an apathetic group. It is hard to believe an enrollment of 18, 317 can yield less than 800 students. I have no answers.

Mickey,

I have to say I was a little worried in the second half (~13 minutes) about deja vu last night when the Seminoles scored 5 points and our offense seemed to go to sleep. I think for us to have any chance at 8-8 or even 9-7 will be to continue to play with intensity and to show some semblance of a half-court offense.

Any idea when Stitt will be 100%? Young has done a good job stepping in. Yet, the Tigers will need Stitt to finish the season well.

Kirk

Kirk,
I had director of basketball operations Mike Morrell on my radio show this morning and he said Stitt is getting close to being 100%. I agree that he is the key to the rest of the season. The half court offense will not be great this season, so I think it means a bigger need to win the games on the defensive end.

Mickey,
I think your idea about the pep rally downtown is a great one! There is no other place like Clemson on Game Day, why not make it...No other place like Clemson on Game Weekend.
Unfortunately, there are far too many people out there who can find reasons not to do anything. They'll tell you why you can't and shouldn't bend over to pick up a $100 bill. Negative people tend to be the loudest when it comes to these sorts of things. The pep rally is a great idea because it would further build community at Clemson. Businesses would make a lot of money and receive a lot more of direct exposure from in town and out of town guests. It would result in more people coming and spending the weekend in Clemson rather than just game day. Hotels would have to accommodate, and perhaps even more would spring up creating more jobs for the area. I enjoyed going downtown Clemson while I was a student, and it seemed like a pep rally anyway inside the bars, why not make it a family affair and bring the pep rally outside to the streets. The bars could do an after rally special "happy-after-rally-hour". Sounds cool, I wish I lived closer to help you out. Noel Brewing Co would love to sponsor something like that...if only :-(.
Go Tigers
Michael

Michael,

I love the attitude. I really think this can happen. It makes so much sense for so many involved. Hopefully we can get this done sooner rather than later. Thanks for the encouraging words.

Mickey,

I read your blog but have never written to you.

I’m a 1970 grad. I recall during Frank Howard’s era we had pep rallies on either Thursday or Friday nights before game day. We had them at the amphitheater on campus. The band, cheerleaders, the coach and several of the players all participated on stage. The cheerleaders occasionally used the time to teach us a new cheer they wanted to initiate. It was a great setting attended by so many that the amphitheater overflowed.

However, I like your idea of placing it downtown to accommodate a crowd and simultaneously make an economical impact.

For every accomplishment in life those hundreds of nay sayers are continually passed by the few who dare to ask, “Why not?”

Regards,

Don

Don,
It is obvious to me that the student body is different today than it was back then. You do not get the involvement like you used to but that is another reason downtown Clemson could be utilized. I hope this type of event will encourage more school spirit.

Mickey,
You often speak of Tiger greats such as Steve Fuller, Jeff Davis, Jerry Butler, Woody Dantzler, Terry Kinard, Brian Dawkins, CJ Spiller, and James Davis. I am curious to know why you rarely ever mention Charlie Whitehurst. I am curious to know your opinion about Charlie and do you not consider him a top 10 or even possibly top 5 Tiger. You speak of James Davis often. I think Charlie is definitely way ahead of Davis in the list of Tiger greats. This is true of many Clemson fans. The guy is 2nd all time in ACC passing yards. 4-0 vs. USC. If you name the greatest Clemson wins in the last 10 years and their significance Charlie quarterbacked several of those wins (Miami, FSU, Tenn, 63-17, 1st and 35). Plus, anyone who knows anything knows he played behind the worst offensive lines in recent memory. Also 3 coordinators. Tommy Bowden was around as long as he was only because Whitehurst was the quarterback. Imagine if Tahj Boyd takes over for Parker half way through next year (very likely) and throws for over 400 yards in the first game and 8 td’s in the first two? He would instantly be a legend. Also, no one can ever say Whitehurst is not one of the toughest players in Clemson history. Go back and watch Texes Tech sometime. That was as a freshmen. He spent that night throwing up in a hospital, but no one knows about that. He threw the interception against Miami (after beating them at Miami), but go back and watch the throws he made in that game. It was unbelievable. I don’t remember anyone making those throws in a Clemson uniform (I do not remember watching Fuller play). He is one of the best athletes to play quarterback at Clemson other than Woody Dantzler. There may be guys who were athletes that played quarterback (Cameron, Solomon, maybe Proctor), but Whitehurst was a quarterback who happened to be a great athlete. Someone once told me you are only considered a greater runner when you can’t throw, but once you are considered a great passer people all of a sudden think you can’t run. My last note is Charlie never complained about his offensive line or coaches and always blamed himself for a loss. It is easy to forget about Charlie after suffering three years with Proctor, Harper, and Bowden. Imagine Charlie having the talent Clemson has had since 2006. Clemson has missed the toughness and leadership from the quarterback position since Charlie has been gone. That is a reason why I am excited about Parker, Boyd, and Dabo. They have to guts it takes to lead and Dabo will demand the best.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Lexington Tiger

Lexington Tiger,
Thanks for your insight. I agree that Whitehurst is an all-time great. I probably have not been as fair to him. You are correct to say he deserves a better place in Clemson history. You make a good point about the coordinators too. A couple of those seasons Whitehurst had very little running game to support him also. I like Whitehurst and probably need to give him more respect and consideration. Thanks for your e-mail.

Mickey,

All week I've seen the posts and articles about the officiating in Blacksburg on Saturday. While I'd love to buy into the Karl Hess conspiracy theory, I have a hard time overlooking some basic concepts that could have contributed to the difference in FT attempts.

1. Remember the question that the analysts asked OP on College Gameday in LJ? "Do you feel the play has gotten too physical?" Considering how physical we play, I was shocked to hear him agree with the analysts. If I'm an official watching that broadcast, I could easily take that discussion to mean that I'm not setting the tone well enough or don't understand how physical the play should be.

2. Since the discussion on Gameday, I've heard other ACC game commentators talk about the physical nature of play in the league. Don't you think that the entire crew of officials in Blacksburg could have gone in with the mindset, "OK, you think it's too physical? Watch this!" If you watched that game, you should have seen that they were making a statement. I also wonder how many calls were made by Hess versus the other officials in the crew. Either way I felt like touch fouls were called against both teams.

3. Malcolm Delaney is an excellent athlete that causes problems for a lot of teams. Strict officiating creates a huge advantage for him. This is also the case for the teams that are more talented than us in the league. Unfortunately, despite good recruiting classes of late, we are not in the top 4 or 5 in talent level. We have to rely on defensive scheme (press) and hustle to win games. Our style of play is more aggressive than a talented team that just simply outscores you. I still think Duke and UNC get the edge against us in terms of officiating, but I'm never surprised to see us have more fouls than them.

4. VT took more advantage of opportunities from the line. I don't know the stats, but I know they looked better on the front end of 1 and 1's.

I could be wrong. Hess could have it in for us. However, if we're going to turn things around, we better figure something out on the offensive end, find someone who can shoot 3's consistently to keep defenses honest, and start hitting FTs more consistently. We also need to play smarter to stay out of foul trouble. We have three guys who lose minutes due to fouls almost every game, and many of the fouls are 40 feet from the basket. Long term, I hope we can find some true scorers who don't mind having their playing time depend on being able to play good defense.

PawBoy

PawBoy,
I remember Purnell’s comments well. Also Roy Williams has said the same things. Something has to be done because the game is suffering. But it is hard to watch a game with so many stoppages for fouls too. I am not sure what the answer is. I have always suggested four on four which is radical but would create space. Most disagree but I think it would add skill and take away some of the physical nature of the game. It is drastic but something needs to be done.

Mickey:

I totally appreciate your passion for increasing the buzz around Clemson athletic events and improving the fan experience for football and basketball games. However, I think that Tiger Nation may be getting a bit carried away with "traditions".

I think you run a risk of watering down traditions when you try to maintain too many of them. Clemson football has enough traditions for me already. Howard's Rock, Running Down the Hill, the Tombstones etc. I also think we have a great tradition of sportsmanship and hospitality to visiting fans that has been recognized by schools such as Texas A&M and Boston College in a way that should make us all proud to be Tigers. Coach Swinney has recently added the Tigerwalk as a new tradition. (Although I think it's debatable if something less than 10 years old can really be a tradition)

You can't go around adding a new tradition every year or so without making some folks wonder why the old traditions weren't good enough.

The only tradition I'm really interested in right now is our former tradition of being the team to beat when it comes to the ACC championship because at the end of the day the difference between having a set of traditions versus a sit of gimmicks is winning.

The reason that running down the hill became one of the great traditions in college football wasn't the mere act of a football team sprinting down an incline. It became exciting and respected because of who was doing the running. When our opponents entered Death Valley during the Ford era, they knew what that bunch wearing orange was going to do when they got to the bottom of that hill and it struck fear and apprehension in their minds before the ball was even kicked off. When we start playing football that way again i think we'll see that Clemson football has all of the traditions it needs.

Brian

Brian,
I am not sure the pep rallies could even be considered a tradition and I agree that something has to go on for a few years before it reaches that status. I don’t think any of this takes away from the Rock and the Hill though. BTW-I remember when I was a kid and touching Howard’s Rock and running down the hill was not as big of a deal as it is today. There was not the fan fair that we see today. That tradition has grown through the years. Go back and watch video of Coach Howard and the boys and there was not a big deal at some games.

-Mickey
I'm so glad that you have brought this idea into light. I've often thought many times why Clemson couldn't do something similar to what A&M does with it's Yell Practice. Think how amazing it would be if 80k fans could break out in unison all of the wonderful Clemson cheers and traditions. C-L-E-M in proper cadence instead of 100 miles an hour speed. Bringing back Orange -White from South and North stands. When the Tiger Band plays Rage Defense and the whole stadium can shout "Defense" in unison, or 3rd down defense cheer and the crowd shouts "Defense" at the appropriate time. Same for 1st down cheer the whole Valley says "Go!" If we could really make this happen, then DV will be the most incredible football atmosphere in the entire nation, hands down.

The problems that I see are:

1. The cheerleaders and current students are clueless about the true Clemson cheers and traditions. They need to be brought on board. There is no mike man or any of the crazy antics that occurred when I was a student.

2. While "Zombie Nation" has it's moments, they have completely derailed the classic waving your right hand in the air (which was taken from the cadets who waived their hats when Clemson was a military college) and dragging out "Goooooooo Tigers" as the ball is kicked. I've never been happy about that.

3.Screwing with Tiger Rag, period! The sacrilege that is The Woo Hoo. I know, I know. It is sickening. When you mess with Tiger Rag, then there is a fundamental problem with that.

Solutions:

1. Educate the entire Clemson family on all the classic cheers and traditions and how they are properly recited. New traditions are great, but we must hold strong to the classics or they too will be lost. In some ways, they already are.

2. Why can't Clemson's version of Yell Practice be held in DV? Treat it the same as say, the Orange and white game. Contact the parties who handle Yell Practice for A&M and discuss logistics, concerns, etc. Shouldn't be too hard.

3.If the University can make this a weekly event prior to each home game, then the entire Clemson business community could stand to increase their revenues by an extra 7 days each Fall. It may start at say 5-10k people, but it could swell to 25-30k people or more if it's done right.

If this really could come to fruition, then we can make DV the premier football environment in the country. The Hill, The Rock and 80k fans in unison. Wow! Clemson people are like no other. They are the best fans in the world. We just need to get everyone on board. Mickey, even though you and I have never met,I am 100% willing to help you with this endeavor in any way I can. I'm completely serious. Let's make it happen.

Sincerely,
Tom

Tom,
I loved your e-mail because you provided solutions. I am not sure we can do it in the stadium like A&M but it is not a terrible idea. My guess is that we will start out smaller and once people get a feel for what is done then they will make it more of a priority. We can get Tigers in the habit of coming and making it a part of their weekend. Stay in touch and hopefully we can get this thing off of the ground.

Mickey,
First of all, greetings from Chester SC. I have enjoyed following your blog since you first started publishing on TigerNet. I especially enjoy the entries that cover some of the great Clemson people that I met while in school there.

I am following up on your request in today's blog, but I am going to offer an addition to the experience during the actual football games. I have made several trips to Blacksburg to see the Hokies play (against Clemson as well as other teams). One of the things I really liked was the large guns their ROTC fired after each TD. Is this something that we could work in to our gameday as well?

Thanks,
Andy

Andy,
I am not sure but I know the ROTC guys very well and will inquire. One thing we need to bring back is the old sign that used to hang in the West end zone that read, “Army ROTC sez Take No Prisoners!” That banner was in Death Valley for years but political correctness led to it being taken down. We need to get that one back.

Mickey - Thanks so much for your work with our athletics at Clemson!!! We truly need a public voice and you do a great job filling that role!

I too was blessed to attend Yell Practice at A&M and was blown away! I think your idea is a great one if the details can be worked out. What a great recruiting tool as well! Just make sure we include the fact that us guys get a smacker on the lips from our date at some point in time! I was the beneficiary of a nice kiss from a lovely Aggie that I didn't even know! Best fans in the country if you want my opinion!!!

Best wishes with this idea!

Thanks for giving the occasional shout out to my cousin Roy in Israel and it was a pleasure meeting you at the kickoff party last year! Hope Ryan is doing well!

God bless – David

David,
Ryan is doing great. Thanks for asking. I am a big Roy Welsh fan too. What a terrific friend. The A&M thing is really cool and hopefully we can start our own version here. I am not sure it has to be close to what they are doing but hopefully we can at least get the ball rolling this fall. Thanks for the e-mail.

Mickey,
I have really appreciated your blog over the last few years. This is one way that I can stay in contact with the Clemson family and the Clemson community. Thank you for continuing to be a voice of reason and creativity in an often negative online world.

Your proposal:

I was also enamored with the Aggie Cheer Practice. Folks may dismiss it as cultish or crazy but it is definitely something special that sets Texas A&M apart. They, like Clemson, have a family type atmosphere and a tight-knit community of fans nationwide that swell with Aggie pride during the ups and the downs. When Texas A&M came to Clemson a few years back they rented out the Bi-Lo Center parking lot to host the cheer practice. How incredible is that for a team traveling from Texas?

If you run into problems with City Council or local police you could always pitch the idea to multiple locations. Your idea of always having a pep rally the Friday night before a game might be too much for the town of Clemson, but what if Anderson, Greenville, Spartanburg, Easley or Seneca were all given chances to host the event? That would alleviate the shortage of hotels in the Clemson area problem and would open the door to other cities to experience the economic bump. On top of that, it would give businesses and Clemson fans in other towns a chance to show off their spirit. I bet IPTAY would be willing to get involved with that movement a little more since they have cut out many of those Clemson Clubs along the way. Let Clemson host the first big game and Tigerama then let other towns get involved.

Thanks for posting your ideas!

Go Tigers!
John

John,
I have not thought about rotating the events. That is what they do with Tiger Calls and maybe we can look at that. I always thought about them in Clemson but maybe a traveling event is the answer. Thanks for your suggestions.

Mickey,

I like the idea you have presented to upstart some traditions that are unique to Clemson. The idea of yell practice or downtown festival the Friday before games is a great idea, however I don't think it would be successful beyond a college street party. Reason being, Clemson is isolated from the fan base. Most of the 80,000 people who attend Clemson game come 20-150 miles away. Similar events would work wonderfully at places like SC, where the majority of the fans live, work and play in the Columbia area. I just think it would be hard to have fans travel extended distances or stay in hotels for Friday and Saturday events.

I think any tradition which involves a gathering of fans, would have to be a once a year thing, or held on game day, such as yell practice at Littlejohn or tailgating / camping on the eve of "BIG" games.

On the other hand, there are some traditions I would like to see changed. For example, I don't like the band tune and crowd shouting "GO!" after 1st downs. (and don't get me started on the Woo Hoo.) I like it much better if the announcer would say "and that’s a Tiger..." and the crowd continues with "1st DOWN!" While I know it is not original, I think it is impressive when everyone participates.

The Wave. The wave was a great tradition in the 80's and it was really impressive when it was in full force. I would love to see it come back.

With that being said, I do like the traditions we have, the cannon, the Rock, the hill (although I don't like how we continuously refer to it as the most 25 seconds of college football on the scoreboard as it happens.) I like Frank Howard over the loud speaker telling the players to touch the rock or keep their filthy hands off of it. I like the new Tiger Walk.

Kurt

Kurt,
Different strokes for different folks but I don’t like the “Another First Down” stuff. Seems like a high school deal to me. I have never liked the wave either. Seems like that ship has sailed. The proposed idea of a downtown pep rally would most likely turn into a college street party but at least the students could get involved in something.

Mickey,

I read your blog about the proposal on a pep rally before each home game. I think it's a great idea. Surely the businesses would stay open for a couple of hours during this event. As for as security, why would it be any different than a big win after the game. The Esso Club is packed after a game. Do they have any issues? I believe it can be done with the support from the community. Great idea and keep thinking. By the way, I'm not quitting on the ban the woo hoo effort. Trying to reach a few people at a time.
Enjoy your show.

"Ban the Woo Hoo" Mike

“Ban the Woo Hoo” Mike,
I think the Ban the Woo Hoo stuff is gaining momentum. You guys are making an impact. Keep up the good work. We can whip this thing. “Go Tigers Go Tigers Go!”

Mickey,
I like your concept. One of the problems to overcome would be parking. If we don’t get too much rain I believe Bowman field could be used for 6 home games (excluding Homecoming of course). If Bowman is not any option, the IPTAY lot below the tennis complex would not be too far to walk. Perhaps enticing folks who park further with the use of the CAT buses would work. From a band perspective maybe we could induce more student participation by allowing students to play (particularly useful if funds are limited to pay for post pep rally entertainment).
Just a couple of suggestions.
Regards,
Steve

Steve,
Thanks for the suggestions. I doubt Bowman Field will ever be an option but CAT buses could help. The main thing is to make the event good enough where people don’t mind walking. My friend who is a professor on campus addressed the everyday parking problem on campus by saying, “We don’t have a parking problem. We have a lazy problem.” He says we have plenty of parking on campus but some are too lazy to walk. If we make this event exciting, then people won’t have as many parking complaints.

Mickey –
I love the idea banning the woo hoo and replacing it with “Go Tigers, Go Tigers Go” and I think you could really get that to catch if it ran across the electronic marquees under the luxury boxes this fall during Tiger Rag.

I’d also like to propose sharing a tradition I observed in Norman. At the end of the Star Spangled Banner before the game; the crowd roared “SOONERS” in place of “brave”. It was awesome and in no way disrespectful. Perhaps we could do same with “TIGERS”.

Also, would you happen to know who handles the audio during football games? Although Zombie Nation is tired, I don’t know anybody in the Clemson family that didn’t love the involvement of the crowd when it debuted, especially the student section, as with “We Will Rock You” during the FSU game last fall. It would be awesome if we could get some fresh songs/intros that get the student section rocking (like AC/DC’s Thunderstruck) again during our home games. Also, I think it would be great to offer the offense and the defense the option to pick a handful of songs/intros that play when they take the field during the game, similar to our baseball players coming to the plate.
Continue the good work and best wishes to Ryan,
Erik ‘04

Erik,
Ryan is great. Thanks for the kinds words. Jon Seketa is in charge of the music and I am sure he would love to hear input about music during the games. That was a very cool deal with the ‘We Will Rock You” scene at the FSU game. Hopefully we can re-create that soon.

Mickey,
I am 26 and attended Clemson U from 2003-2006 and speaking from a younger man's prospective, you need to keep the 18-22 year old crowd involved. If the Pep Rally was on Bowman Field, you would get a lot of interaction from the students but parking might be more difficult. If it is in the stadium, the students (18-22) probably won't attend because they will hang downtown or at parties with their friends.

With all that said, one thing I thought of that could be great for all age groups was some stand-up comedy. I was thinking that maybe some local guys (so you don't have to spend cash on someone famous) could do it and aim their comedy at 'bashing' the opponent for that week. Nothing real serious but maybe some small digs at how the other schools do things. Example: Duke is a basketball school, why do they even show up? And why is it called Duke? There is no one at that school who is the 'Duke' of anything, even though we ALL know Coach K thinks he is!!! Watch out Clemson, you might pick up another foul :)~

Let me know what ya think Mick,
Alan

Alan,
Stick to the day job. Just kidding. I like the comedian idea. Bands or comedians would be a great addition. Anything to get more involved. I think you are right about the involvement of young people. It is really the most important aspect. Young people provide energy and are the catalyst.

Mickey,

Not what you are looking for from your article, however, speaking of traditions, what about a tiger-rag? Think I e-mailed a couple of years ago regarding this, but received no traction. Don't care for the "pom-poms". To go along with the "Tiger-Rag" fight song, everyone should bring to the game his/her own RAG. Patterned after the Steelers "Terrible Towels" or whatever they are called. For those of us that catch the games on TV now and then (mileage a problem ) believe it would add to the totally orange appearance for 80,000 people to also be waving their "RAGS". Surely there is a mill in the area that could make these towels at reasonable price.
p.s. Can also work as sweat towel at those hot Sept. games.

Bill

Bill,
I remember getting so excited when I could get a new Tiger Rag each year when I was a kid. I like the tradition. It seems like they have passed those out at a few events over the past few years. I am not sure why the Tiger Rags have not been a bigger hit recently.

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