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Good idea.***
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I don't think so.***
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Ahhh, yes. You and Nikki gettin' your fascism on...nice***
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We should just give everyone a wrist tattoo with their ID.***
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Just use the Covid vaccine chip****
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Getting rid of Bots could make the Politics Board a desert ?***
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Nov 15, 2023, 10:01 AM
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I'm guessing FNC is now bashing Nikki***
Nov 15, 2023, 10:03 AM
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Re: I'm guessing FNC is now bashing Nikki***
Nov 15, 2023, 8:01 PM
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Probably not. FNC is just another shill for the Authoritarian Uniparty, but with higher ratings than the others.
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Firstly...
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I don't think she'll have the authority to do that, nor should she. That being said, it's not a bad idea to hold people accountable.
I mean, I know you love the anonymous trollin', but people should be held accountable for hate they spew online.
Also, anyone who cried about social media being a "monopoly" and said they wanted the government to step in to stop companies from policing speech can kindly sit the #### down on this one.
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Lot o points [157697]
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While we're telling people to STFD,
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Nov 15, 2023, 10:12 AM
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Let's toss in people that are ok with ID validation for posting online but not for voting.
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All-In [42983]
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That's fair
Nov 15, 2023, 10:17 AM
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Just for the record, I don't support the government requiring the ID validation nor do I think a president should pursue this. But social media companies should on their own.
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Lot o points [157697]
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In a perfect world, sure, but to me that sounds like a great way to
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Nov 15, 2023, 10:21 AM
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kill a message board.
Take this place for instance. I don't say anything on here I wouldn't tell anyone in real life, so I don't have some alternate persona I'm embarassed of or anything, but just from a safety standpoint we've already seen there are nuts that will try to ruin your life or threaten your safety even on this board, and for that reason I probably wouldn't be posting here if that were the case.
You'd just see a mass migration of users to the anonymous sites.
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Re: In a perfect world, sure, but to me that sounds like a great way to
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Take this place for instance. I don't say anything on here I wouldn't tell anyone in real life, so I don't have some alternate ego I'm embarassed of or anything, but just from a safety standpoint we've already seen there are nuts that will try to ruin your life or threaten your safety even on this board, and for that reason I probably wouldn't be posting here if there were the case.
You're 100 percent right; I think Haley meant it more on a way of verifying to prevent bots and foreign agents. But I don't favor government overreach to do that; that should be left up to the companies.
But yep, we've had some nuts in here (and still are here) who take it too far. One in this thread, actually.
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Don't tell me they let DSP back in...***
Nov 15, 2023, 1:34 PM
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This issue is a good Rorshach
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Nov 15, 2023, 10:12 AM
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test to measure people's affinity for authoritarianism.
Not surprised to see your response.
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You have suckled the teet of authoritarianism for years here
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You were a loud and proud supporter and advocate of the Patriot Act, and you were just fine with presidents locking up "enemy combatants." You wanted people prosecuted for speaking out against the Iraq War.
Everyone else here doesn't remember that because they weren't here, but I do. You've championed government overreach for decades in the name of national security, AND you're one of those anonymous trolls who takes pleasure in trying to dox people online, so no wonder you hate this idea. So kindly S T F U with your hypocrisy.
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He also yells at nurses.***
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Re: He also yells at nurses.***
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Literally watched this guy 20 years ago yammer on about how a president should be allowed to lock up citizens indefinitely without legal representation because he names them "enemy combatants" and now he's crying like a baby because Nikki wants real names on people's TikToks.
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Populists gonna populist.***
Nov 15, 2023, 10:38 AM
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He's not.***
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All-TigerNet [12091]
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Now you are.
Nov 15, 2023, 12:05 PM
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Facts.
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He really isn't. You were on a heater back in the early-mid-aughts.
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And TheSpectre, and Arrow, and whoever the other handles were.
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All-TigerNet [12091]
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And you're lying.
Nov 15, 2023, 12:06 PM
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Unless you can show what you're talking about.
Just making #### up.
Again.
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Looks like we got some receipts, son.***
Nov 15, 2023, 11:12 AM
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No we don't.
Nov 15, 2023, 11:58 AM
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You boys should show what you're talking about.
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That's fine...
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They remember how you never admit you're wrong because that would ruin your troll status. Instead, it's "go back 20 years and prove it!"
Nah. They were here. I was here. We remember. You do a somewhat okay job trying to convince people here that you hate authoritarian government, but we remember what you supported and how vehemently you attacked people who opposed your views.
If you say you didn't support the "enemy combatant" stuff, you're about as bad of a liar as they come. You were a big advocate of government-led torture as well.
I know you loved it back then; it must be hard not have your little butt tap crew anymore and instead have a group who calls you on your BS.
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If what you are saying were true
Nov 15, 2023, 12:24 PM
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(it's not) then you were right then and I was wrong.
But now we've switched sides, so that makes me right now.
I know, you're pretending you don't want gubmint with this power, but you'll march right down and vote to give it to them by trying to elect someone like Haley.
You've made my case pretty well.
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I'd accuse you of poor reading comprehension...
Nov 15, 2023, 1:07 PM
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If I didn't already know that one of your tired old troll tactics is to strawman the hell out of what someone says.
You were right here 20 years ago with other pieces of garbage who have since crawled into their holes. I think your only remaining ally from then was xtiger, who would follow a pig into a pile of #### if it put an R by its name on the ballot.
I already said Haley didn't have that authority nor should she (you know I said that, but you can't admit it because it ruins your troll street cred). I'll vote for Haley because she's a proven leader and adult in the room; your imbecile wannabe dictator you adore actually did try to overstep his authority and bring our democracy crumbling down, which is what you wanted all along.
You've always craved a dictator so long as he's your flavor of dictator.
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You've always found creative ways
Nov 16, 2023, 8:33 AM
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to be more wrong daily.
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And your handle is still as ironic as it was 20 years ago.***
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Re: There you go again.
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He (and then they) sucked you into a deflection digression.
They are very good at that; it’s also the only thing they’re good at.
And to think, one of these weirdos actually brags about how he catalogues old posts just to be fully prepared for the next deflection.
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Cata keeps bringing up "butt taps"... He must be good at that or maybe just one
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of their circle jerk things. Good thing I'll never know.
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Also those concerned about online Groomers should support this?***
Nov 15, 2023, 10:24 AM
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There's a way to ensure that all internet use is identified, monitored, and
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tightly controlled. China has really mastered it, I'm sure we could lean on them for help.
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Re: There's a way to ensure that all internet use is identified, monitored, and
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Again, I disagree with the "identified by name" part. I made a much longer post about the why's, but that's exchanging digital anarchy that's increasingly ruled by troll farms (and will soon be ruled by AI's pretending to be real people while also pretending to be Real 'Merricuns), for digital totalitarianism.
The key there is crypto. User names and handles that are in the public domain should always be changeable...and somebody's digital ID and all associated user personal data should be locked behind an ever-changing crypto key to prevent doxing. But people should also only get one crypto key per person, too, and they should have to validate the fact that they are in fact, you know, an actual human being and are who they say they are.
That way it's real people talking to real people again, when you ban a troll they stay banned, and the Interwebz are not dominated by troll farms and AI's. Or we need to pull the plug and shut the whole thing down because when AI gets into the game...whoo, baby. Real users won't even be able to find one another, they'll be buried under so many digitrolls.
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Sounds like this would be a great USP for a new social competitor.***
Nov 15, 2023, 10:40 AM
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That sounds awesome too.
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I mean, if you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about and if it saves just one life and whatever else BS justification for additional loss of privacy they have.
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Just don't criticize the party too much or they won't allow you to
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use your CBDC to buy food for your family. It's wild how we're sleep walking into this Soviet style dystopian nightmare while they keep everyone convinced it's just a crazy conspiracy theory.
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POTD
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It's scary how malleable these little totalitarians are.
Between them and women voters, we're toast.
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Re: POTD
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Lakebum1®, c'mon, don't butt tap this guy. He'd cheer on your imprisonment for smoking weed and celebrated Homeland Security money going to local drug enforcement back in the day. He's always been a supporter of government overreach and police authority; he championed every ounce of the Patriot Act when it came out.
He's the definition of a little totalitarian and absolutely ain't on your side.
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Re: POTD
Nov 15, 2023, 8:19 PM
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Won’t you even try to stay on topic? Just once?
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Oculus Spirit [79744]
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The whole problem was government leaning on social media
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platforms to police speech that they didn't like....Kinda how fascists operate.
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I agree
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I think Nikki has the right idea--for the companies to pursue. Not the government. I don't want any president to have the authority to do that.
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Oculus Spirit [79744]
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Well just look at how the Biden administration has handled things
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They don't care if they have the authority or not, they'll use OSHA to enforce govt. directives, pressure social media companies to police speech they don't like, and weaponize govt. agencies like the FBI and ATF against otherwise law abiding citizens who may be doing or saying things they don't like.
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That's why the scope of the executive branch needs to be reigned in
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Along with E.O.s. We've seen the worst abused post 9/11 starting with Bush and continued through three administrations after that. Trump was a terrible offender as well, which is it's important for Americans to move away from him AND Biden.
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I think that ship has sailed, the only way to reign in the federal
Nov 15, 2023, 11:55 AM
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govt. at this point is to let it collapse and rebuild it based on the constitution. But that would be very, very painful for everyone.
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That would take a war
Nov 15, 2023, 12:14 PM
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And I'm not sure democracy rises back out of those ashes.
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We're going to get a war whether we like it or not
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I'm not sure our govt. can handle/survive a multi-front war coupled with the collapse of the petro-dollar, which is exactly what we're looking at. And we will have attacks on the homeland this go around too, look at who is pouring over the border. It ain't all Mexican families looking for a better life anymore.
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I hope you're wrong, but maybe you ain't
Nov 15, 2023, 1:13 PM
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My ### will be looking for real estate in the Caribbean when that goes down.
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Don't worry, he's wrong.***
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Lol, youll come around when NPR tells you to.***
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NPR will be the first to go when this great war begins.***
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Nah, they'll need to pump out all the propaganda they can to help
Nov 16, 2023, 10:59 AM
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boost military recruitment.
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Sounds like NPR will have a management change
Nov 16, 2023, 5:11 PM
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if "boosting military recruitment" and "pumping out propaganda" becomes a goal.
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Most likely
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Because if the civil war breaks out the way some people want it to, those current NPR people will be shot execution style in the back parking lot.
Some people = Trumpkins
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Do you really think it should be illegal to express one's hatred of
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people, ideas, or things online, where the federal government determines what is acceptable and what is not?
Holding people "accountable for hate they spew online" is a ticky business and a real slippery slope. It's almost impossible to do that without infringing on fundamental freedoms. I agree that calls to violence cross a line, but not expressions of anger, frustration, or "hate", even if many of us find it offensive or disgusting. Condemn it, protest against it, etc., but having the government in charge of controlling and squashing thoughts and opinions may not be a great of an idea as it sounds.
Take a comment like "I hate (insert ethnic/racial slur). They are animals and I don't want them in my country!"
Most of us find that kind of comment highly offensive and unacceptable. Some wacko may read or hear that and turn around and murder someone. I think we all should speak out strongly against that BS, as I understand that it's wrong and it can ultimately create a bad and often dangerous environment. Still, I think it's just as, perhaps more dangerous to use the power of the government from preventing people from thinking or expressing it. It may sound like a good idea, for the right reasons, but what happens when your party is not in charge, and it's used against you, to silence you or other good people? The day very well may come when you are silenced or punished for making an innocent comment or expressing an unapproved opinion that gets labeled as "hate".
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Not at all
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Which is why the companies should regulate this and not the government.
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Re: Not at all
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Solos is correct.
If companies are held to account for monitoring this, but fail to do so to the satisfaction of … the government, then who is really in charge?
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I think he forgot to respond... ;~) This document was last week, not 20 years
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Re: Firstly...
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What's your name?
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Insane idea, politically. How can ideas like this
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Re: Insane idea, politically. How can ideas like this
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Airing of ideas doesn’t help NikkiXi, but it sure helps Americas voters.
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Heisman Winner [121092]
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Let's face it, the interweb is out of control with kids and bots***
Nov 15, 2023, 10:27 AM
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Lot o points [157697]
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JeEp RocKiN!!!***
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Nov 15, 2023, 10:29 AM
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110%er [9738]
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Well, she won't be made President if she keeps saying things like that out
Nov 15, 2023, 5:12 PM
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loud.
Don't mess with folk's ability to troll and watch "hot Moms in yoga pants" videos.
I'm pretty sure NBC purposefully made all of the Pub candidates say they would ban TikTok - which pretty much lost all of them all votes from people under 30.
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What are you afraid of?
Nov 16, 2023, 4:15 PM
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Do you have something to hide?
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Re: What are you afraid of?
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Nov 17, 2023, 10:05 AM
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Innocent until the government decides that you ought to be guilty.
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Re: Let's try this again: Darling Nikki
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Nov 16, 2023, 6:04 PM
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This is the lefts wet dream. Great Britain has thousands in prison for social media posts and who knows how many others have been fined. All for expressing views the govt doesn't like. I knew Nikki was an insider but throwing people in prison for wrong think when real actual rampant out of control crime with victims and everything gets ignored is not gonna get her any votes, other than the self loathing supposed Republicans who posy here of course.
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